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I feel it should be 10 for 5 an over and 20 for 4 an over as in my opinion going at 4 runs an over is equal to a strike rate of 100 these days. I would like to know other than Anderson how many went at under 3 an over with 20 overs of power plays and how many batsmen had a strike rate of 100 or more.

Secondly if a batsmen has to score 20 runs to get bonus points then the bowler has to bowl 3 overs too. So let us try to be fair to both bowlers and batsmen

Team Selection
Pick 5 "core" players and 2 substitutes who will come into scoring contention if one or more of your core players is not playing for some reason. The players can all be from 1 team or a mix of the two, its up to you. Substitute players will be selected in the order you have named them.

Scoring Format
Batting
For every run scored 1 point
If a batsman scores 50 he will get additional 20
If he scores 100 additional 30 and for a score above 150 additional 40
Someone who has a strike rate of 80 plus he will get 10 additional points with 20 for a S/R of above 100 provided the batsman has scored at least 20 runs.
10pt penalty for a duck (if batting in top 6 of the order)

Bowling
25 pts per wicket plus
20pt bonus for a 3fer
30pt bonus for a 5fer
5pt bonus per maiden over
2 pt penalty per noball/wide bowled
If a bowler has an economy rate of <=5.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 15 point bonus
If a bowler has an economy rate of<=4.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 25 point bonus.

Fielding
10 points for each catch taken, and stumping. Up to 20 points to be shared between responsible fielders for runouts.

The amended rule is in bold

Here are the Rules
Team Selection
Pick 5 "core" players and 2 substitutes who will come into scoring contention if one or more of your core players is not playing for some reason. The players can all be from 1 team or a mix of the two, its up to you. Substitute players will be selected in the order you have named them.
Scoring Format
Batting
For every run scored 1 point
If a batsman scores 50 he will get additional 20
If he scores 100 additional 30 and for a score above 150 additional 40
Someone who has a strike rate of 80 plus he will get 10 additional points with 20 for a S/R of above 100 provided the batsman has scored at least 20 runs.

Bowling
25 pts per wicket plus
20pt bonus for a 3fer
30pt bonus for a 5fer
5pt bonus per maiden over
2 pt penalty per noball/wide bowled
If a bowler has an economy rate of <=5.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 15 point bonus
If a bowler has an economy rate of<=4.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 25 point bonus.

Fielding
10 points for each catch taken, and stumping. Up to 20 points to be shared between responsible fielders for runouts.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PENALTY FOR SCORING A DUCK HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE RULES as from 1st February 2010

What about having more than 2 substitutes? The way the Aussies behave over the concept of 'resting' players on top of the injuries, you have buckleys chance of having your players on the park for more than 3 games in a 5 match comp.

Having seen the injuries (Smith/Dhoni/Agarkar),rested players,missing players (unknown dates of players joining IPL Hopes/Pollard/Bravo) i would like to suggest about 5 substitute players for IPL. It will avoid the changing of teams and would be easy on league organisers.

Here are the Current Rules for ODI Fantasy Leagues

Team Selection
Pick 5 "core" players and 2 substitutes who will come into scoring contention if one or more of your core players is not playing for some reason. The players can all be from 1 team or a mix of the two, its up to you. Substitute players will be selected in the order you have named them.
Scoring Format
Batting
For every run scored 1 point
If a batsman scores 50 he will get additional 20
If he scores 100 additional 30 and for a score above 150 additional 40
Someone who has a strike rate of 80 plus he will get 10 additional points with 20 for a S/R of above 100, +30 for s/rate over 150, +40 for s/rate over 200 provided the batsman has scored at least 20 runs.

Bowling
20 pts per wicket plus
20pt bonus for a 3fer
30pt bonus for a 5fer
5pt bonus per maiden over
2 pt penalty per noball/wide bowled
If a bowler has an economy rate of <=5.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 15 point bonus
If a bowler has an economy rate of<=4.0 and has bowled at least 3 overs, he will receive a 25 point bonus.

Fielding
10 points per catch or stumping
20 points per run out, or 10 points each, if two players share the responsibility
10 bonus points for 3 contributions with catches,stumpings or run outs

Latest amendments are in bold

I think we need to raise the threshold for getting the s/r bonus from 20 runs

the amount of points someone can get for scoring 20 runs from 10 balls is really disproportionate to what they have contributed imo

I don't think you should get 10 points for having a strike rate of 80. Nothing special in the modern game. Also, bowlers need to be rewarded more for having a low economy rate. Having an economy below 4 is just as, if not more, valuable as having a batsman striking at 150.

dan08 wrote:I don't think you should get 10 points for having a strike rate of 80. Nothing special in the modern game. Also, bowlers need to be rewarded more for having a low economy rate. Having an economy below 4 is just as, if not more, valuable as having a batsman striking at 150.

I think all the trike rates need some thought because most of the high rates are made by batsmen coming in late with licence to take risks. Maybe 100 S/R for a top order batsman should be equated to 150 S/R for a late order batsman.

hopeforthebest wrote:

dan08 wrote:I don't think you should get 10 points for having a strike rate of 80. Nothing special in the modern game. Also, bowlers need to be rewarded more for having a low economy rate. Having an economy below 4 is just as, if not more, valuable as having a batsman striking at 150.

I think all the trike rates need some thought because most of the high rates are made by batsmen coming in late with licence to take risks. Maybe 100 S/R for a top order batsman should be equated to 150 S/R for a late order batsman.

that's too complictaed. besides, someone batting athe top of the order has the opportunity to bat through the innings and score more from runs and bonuses for 50's and 100's - so it should sort of even out.

I agree that SR and ER needs looking at again given the evolution of the ODI game

Red Devil wrote:

hopeforthebest wrote:

dan08 wrote:I don't think you should get 10 points for having a strike rate of 80. Nothing special in the modern game. Also, bowlers need to be rewarded more for having a low economy rate. Having an economy below 4 is just as, if not more, valuable as having a batsman striking at 150.

I think all the trike rates need some thought because most of the high rates are made by batsmen coming in late with licence to take risks. Maybe 100 S/R for a top order batsman should be equated to 150 S/R for a late order batsman.

that's too complictaed. besides, someone batting athe top of the order has the opportunity to bat through the innings and score more from runs and bonuses for 50's and 100's - so it should sort of even out.

I agree that SR and ER needs looking at again given the evolution of the ODI game

If yo want to make it simple forget about S/R's and give bouuses for boundaries and sixes.

we went through all this once before

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19708&start=105

Personally, I think the current rules work quite well, although I'm always open to change.

economy rates could be tweaked. Currently 15 bonus pts for an econ of 5, but only 25 points for an econ of 2.5. (and I believe it applies to bowlers bowling at least 4 overs not the 3 overs stated above... I've been doing that, at least)

we have a better range of bonus points for T20, and scores of 300 rather than 250 are becoming the norm in ODI's, so perhaps for ODI FLs we could say 10 pts <=6, 20pts <=5, 30pts <=4, 40 pts <=3

SRs are okay I think. the 80SR rewards players who bat through or who have to rebuild an innings. The higher SRs reward batsmen for scoring rapidly..... Johno's very late in the innings 27 (I think) at 300SR potentially changed the game, today. Faulkner has a reputation for completely changing a game with a late order blast, often against a sides best bowlers, bowling at the death, yet often doesn't get the opportunity, so why shouldn't he be well rewarded when he does? Ditto Corey Anderson. There is, after all, nothing to stop a bowler from picking up cheap wickets (and bonus points) from lesser batsmen throwing the bat at the death.

This crops up from time to time. If anyone has some suggestions on different ways to do it from a scoring perspective then I am happy to run some trials on scorecards tomorrow to give us a visible comparison?

The problem with S/R's is that someone on 99.9 S/R gets 10 points less than someone on 100.1 S/R. Bonuses for boundaries would eliminate that yet still reward the fast scoring batsmen.

hopeforthebest wrote:The problem with S/R's is that someone on 99.9 S/R gets 10 points less than someone on 100.1 S/R. Bonuses for boundaries would eliminate that yet still reward the fast scoring batsmen.

And someone scoring a fifty gets more points than a player scoring 49. You're never going to get a fair system.