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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:29 pm

Obviously not as old a hand as Durham, but I do it the same way.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:43 pm

rich1uk wrote:can i check something about the bonus points for bowlers

if a bowler takes 10 wickets in the match does he get +10 for the 5 wickets and +30 for the 10 or just the +30 ?


In this scenario it's just 30pts.

Similar situation to when a bowlers economy rate in ODIs changes from <=6rpo (10pts) to <=5rpo (20pts)
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby rich1uk » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:48 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:
rich1uk wrote:can i check something about the bonus points for bowlers

if a bowler takes 10 wickets in the match does he get +10 for the 5 wickets and +30 for the 10 or just the +30 ?


In this scenario it's just 30pts.

Similar situation to when a bowlers economy rate in ODIs changes from <=6rpo (10pts) to <=5rpo (20pts)


that sounds different to what DFM was saying, maybe need to clarify this
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:33 pm

The way I see it......it can't be just 30 points because a bowler who takes 10 wickets by bowling a 5fer in each innings would expect to get 20 points for each 5fer, so being awarded just 30 for doing it twice would likely lead to disgruntlement
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:54 pm

The rules say to keep adding. If that isn't the intention they need rewording.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby braveneutral » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:02 pm

I was going to answer yesterday but I have always scored it the Durham way as it makes sense that way.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby braveneutral » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:04 pm

Think it has been discussed and confirmed elsewhere before.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby rich1uk » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:05 pm

i'm happy to stack the bonuses, just wanted to make sure i was doing it right

just an aside, the positions after day 2 have been updated, only completed scores tho

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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:18 pm

My understanding to RIch's question is what match wicket bonus points to apply (not including wickets, innings wickets, maidens, 2 in a row, hat-trick)

"+10 for 5 wickets in the match
+20 for 5 wickets in an innings
+30 for 10 wickets in the match"

In that situation, the bowler has moved from taking 5 wickets in a game to 10 wickets. Therefore the bonus points are upgraded from 10pts to 30pts.

If the rules are to keep adding bonus points, for example bonus points for ODI economy bowling =<4rpo would be 60pts (30+20+10) instead of 30pts Or bonus points for T20 economy bowling =<4rpo would be 150pts (50+40+30+20+10) instead of 50pts.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby braveneutral » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:20 pm

No you get one match bonus. But you can get innings and match bonuses.

I.e. A bowler who takes two 5-fers would get two +20s and a +30.

I think that's what rich was asking but glanced over it.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby rich1uk » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 pm

braveneutral wrote:No you get one match bonus. But you can get innings and match bonuses.

I.e. A bowler who takes two 5-fers would get two +20s and a +30.

I think that's what rich was asking but glanced over it.


yep thats exactly what i am asking

sorry if its just me being thick

i might not have worded it clearly before
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:26 pm

Having them in that order makes it less clear. The innings points should be first, then there should be an 'or' between the match points, if they are not to be added. Separating the differing match points implies it is not offering alternatives.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby rich1uk » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:28 pm

all we need to do is add a line saying a bowler can get one bonus per innings and one bonus per match for wickets and the highest applies
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby braveneutral » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:29 pm

I think that they were only in that order due to the incremental points rises.
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Re: NZ v SA Test series FL

Postby rich1uk » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:56 am

game abandoned with no play on the last day

updated tables at the end of the first test here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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