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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:47 pm

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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:53 pm

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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:29 pm

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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Red Devil » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:54 pm

I don't think this is improving for me - the boys might have to stop listening to me on fantasy selections
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:41 pm

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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:45 pm

I deliberately didn't pick Zampa because I figured he would head off on ODI duty and miss about 4 BBL matches. Those ODI's appear to have disappeared off the face of the earth, so now I'm questioning my sanity. Was it all a dream?
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby bigfluffylemon » Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:52 pm

They were scheduled to play an ODI series v South Africa, but South Africa pulled out months ago in order to play their own franchise T20 in January.

So the international players are all actually around for the second half of the season.
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:55 am

That said, Zampa has underperformed somewhat compared to usual, so you were better off with your current picks anyway DFM.
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:07 am

As an aside, we tend to think of T20 as a batsman's game, but there aren't too many specialist bats on the leaderboard - by my count, 5 bowlers, 2 wk/batsmen, 2 bat/bowl allrounders and only one batsman (David).

Also curious how David is ahead of Hales - Hales has 245 runs with 3 50s and an SR of 144, David has 186 runs but a high score of 46 but an SR of 155.

Not questioning DFM's maths, but I wonder if our scoring system may need a tweak.
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:46 am

I've had a quick check and the totals are correct. The difference is David also bowls a bit. He has only bowled bowled 6 overs, but he bowls them in 2 over stints and keeps picking up 20 economy points. He has the same number of run outs as Hales, but has taken 6 catches to Hales 3. Hales SR in individual matches generally falls short of the 175 needed to get the extra SR point, but David, while scoring fewer than Hales has more often crossed that 175 SR mark

T20 is only a batsmens game if you score quickly. A quirk of the FL is the SR. If I pick a batsman then I expect him to bat in the top 3 because any lower down the order there's a chance they won't bat. At the same time (as in David's case) lower order batsmen often come in and start walloping everything, so if they can score 15 runs before they hole out, they can often pick up a lot of SR bonus points. I think that reflects the nature of the game really. I seem to remember that a number of years ago we restricted the batting SR bonus points because the likes of Christian and Big Bravo were batting for 5 minutes, facing 4 or 5 balls and picking up 40 bonus points for smoking 3 or 4 of them to or over the boundaries, whereas the poor old openers were having to work really hard to build an innings, but if they got out for 49 they risked scoring fewer points than the 5 ball Charlies later down the line.
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:48 am

And Hales was on the leaderboard for a while, but then finished his Thunder stint with a couple of ducks and dropped off
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:12 am

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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:22 am

Pele is still nipping at my heels

He might have lost 2 of his players for the rest of the comp, but it isn't stopping him atm. I lost Agar unexpectedly for 3 matches and as soon as he returned Behrendorff went off for a bit of R and R. Dan Sams form has fallen off a cliff. After topping the early player leaderboard, in Thunder's last 4 matches he's returned the grand total of 8 points and I rather suspect he's carrying an injury. Kerr has dropped off, Siddle has been hopeless since he got the captaincy, Christian isn't bowling and barely batting, so points are proving very hard to come by atm after a flying start. The ones that are doing well are the players I share with Pele :no
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:00 pm

Hales finished his stint? What?

Huh. Apparently he's buggering off to play in a different T20 league. Was that announced before the season? If it was, it can't have been much publicised, I completely missed it.

And Rashid left to go and play in the SA T20 league.

I checked he wouldn't be on international duty when I picked him, didn't think that players might be flitting about between domestic leagues mid season :facepalm
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Re: BBL 12 fantasy league

Postby bigfluffylemon » Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:09 am

As I said, DFM, I wasn't querying your maths so much as musing whether the scoring system sufficiently rewards specialist/top order batsmen. As you observe, the role tends to result in a slightly lower scoring rate than those who come in later. A top order player scoring 49 off 40 balls will score 59 points. A player who comes in at the end of the innings and clobbers 2 sixes, a 4 and holes out and gets out scores 16 runs off 4 balls and gets 46 points - not that far behind really, and I'm not sure in proportion to the value of their innings.

Similarly with the bowling - it seems much harder to me to bowl 4 overs economically than it does to bowl 2, especially given if you're bowling out, you are almost certainly bowling towards the back end of the innings where strike rates go up and batsmen are taking more risks (I guess you could argue you're more likely to pick up wickets to make up for it) - how many times do you see a bowler keep a lid on things for the first spell, then come back and concede a couple of boundaries in their 4th over and have their figures ruined? Under the current system, a part-timer who bowls 2 overs for 0-14 in the middle overs picks up 20 points, one who bowls 4 overs for 0-29 gets 10 points while a player who bowls 4 overs including 3 at the death and records 0-33 gets diddly squat - doesn't seem quite proportionate.

I guess the lesson is pick the bits and pieces players for long series like this, as they've got more chances to steadily pick up points, although the ones I did pick, like Christian, aren't doing much anyway :facepalm. Also don't pick players who have signed up to multiple domestic franchises :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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