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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:41 pm

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Then there is the other matter of media coverage and publicity in cricket, which is predominantly confined to digital media and paywall television. BSkyB will be influential on how franchise cricket will be televised, given they hold exclusive rights of all live English cricket until 2019.


From afar, and with a pretty ignorant understanding of the county system, I see this as being a stumbling block.

As soon as this finishes, I see that T20 needs to be separated from any new contract and sold to FTA tellie. Play on the county basis, 2 divisions, and as that very good article refers to, have it around school holidays to encourage the family roll-up. Being live to fta doesn't seem to have affected the crowd sizes in Aus, and it certainly HAS affected the awareness of the competition by the population as a whole. As an example, my S-i-L never watches any domestic cricket on tellie, until the BBL came along.

Having the international element of the imports certainly helps with this. While there are plenty of things CA has got right with the BBL, it certainly isn't perfect.


Logistically it's not going to be easy, terrestrial TV will seek maximum value for televising Twenty20 matches (i.e. on an evening)

This rules out a 10 city franchise team tournament featuring the best talent over 3 weeks, in case if the tournament is affected by weather.
Matches currently spread out for Friday nights is not practical as this affects the County Championship, either through cramming matches in or reducing the format from 16 to 10 matches per season.
To ensure maximum ground attendances and television ratings, the tournament must avoid clashing with association football.

Realistically this leaves a 6 week window between July and the 1st half of August to hold a Twenty20 tournament. Either reverting to the 3 groups of 6 format - 10 group stage matches, with Quarter Final knockout/Finals Day with matches played every Friday and Sunday. Or two Divisions of 9 with promotion/relegation, 16 group stage matches played on Friday/Sunday/Wednesday and possible playoff final at a later date.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby from_the_stands » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:03 am

If a franchise system does come to be in sunny England, I hope they adopt a draft system rather than having an auction.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:39 am

Can't see an auction happening over here.

It would end up being televised on Bargain Hunt.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:24 am

England and the ECB have to look at the success of the IPL and Big Bash and work out what is going wrong with our system. A franchise system might not work, but it would increase the quality of T20 cricket in England.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby from_the_stands » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:58 pm

How about this: shape the English domestic season as it is done in Australia; play the One Day tournament first, having it done and dusted in four weeks. When the IPL finishes; have the ECBPL then, having it done and dusted in four weeks, then the County campaign.

The ECBPL (or whatever they're going to call it) could maintain all 18 County teams, dividing them into two conferences (North & South). Round robin followed by knockouts. 11 games maximum per "franchise." Have a draft system in place for player recruitment rather than the auction system, and have a limit of 7 non-EU players per playing XI. Have an all-star game half way through the season. And have lots of bells and whistles.

The one day cup could have a similar format and quite possibly even rebrand themselves along the lines of the T20 team. Flood the squads with foreign players, and you'd have the best List A comp in the world.

County cricket would need restructuring, either to playing only 8 fc games, or resort to 3 divisions/conferences of 6 teams, with 10 games per team.

If English football can work with so many foreigners involved, maybe cricket could too.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby from_the_stands » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:06 am

And why this would be such a winner is the inclusion of the Pakistan players. Indeed, the inclusion of Asian players would attract great interest from the local British-Asian population, and fans from around the world. From an English player coming through the ranks, they could be one of four locals playing along side the likes of Angelo Matthews, ABDV, MJ, Afrid, KP... well, maybe not the last one.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:49 pm

from_the_stands wrote:And why this would be such a winner is the inclusion of the Pakistan players. Indeed, the inclusion of Asian players would attract great interest from the local British-Asian population,

except that when Yorks took a punt on hosting the neutral venue Aus/Pak test, nobody turned up.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:53 pm

from_the_stands wrote:How about this: shape the English domestic season as it is done in Australia; play the One Day tournament first, having it done and dusted in four weeks. When the IPL finishes; have the ECBPL then, having it done and dusted in four weeks, then the County campaign.

except that in most counties the attendances for 3 matches in a week were terrible. Outside the M25, and perhaps even inside it, there is very little appetite for more than 1 game a week.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Alviro Patterson » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:47 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:
from_the_stands wrote:And why this would be such a winner is the inclusion of the Pakistan players. Indeed, the inclusion of Asian players would attract great interest from the local British-Asian population,

except that when Yorks took a punt on hosting the neutral venue Aus/Pak test, nobody turned up.


Bang on Footman, that howler sent Yorkshire back a good few years. That said if it was a limited overs international or ticket prices a maximum of £15 then it would be a different story. Stewart Regan simply saw pound signs for a neutral game that had no genuine interest.

I'm not comfortable with the idea of pandering to certain communities when cricket is truly a global sport. I see it more of PR gimmick than an attempt to boost participation.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:44 am

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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:42 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Looks like it's gonna happen -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... rhaul.html


Not necessarily, it just says the ECB have hired a man to come up with a flagship Twenty20 tournament. Whether it's revamping the current format or adding another competition remains to be seen.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:14 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricke ... paign=1490


The new league would mean restricting Test cricket to May, August and even September, while the current Natwest T20 Blast, which has lost much of its allure since it was launched 2003, would continue largely in its current form.

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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:19 am

My opinion is it is a load of rubbish.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Alviro Patterson » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 pm

Very unlikely a franchise league will happen in 2017 given England are hosting the ICC Champions Trophy and seven test matches are scheduled from July to September. Even 2019 is logistically tricky with England hosting the Cricket World Cup and a possible Ashes series after it.
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Re: A T20 Franchise League in England

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:02 pm

If I am reading that article correctly, it is suggested that England would have two T20 competitions a year? That is daft.
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