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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:32 pm

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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:35 pm

Finch and Maxwell both out inside three overs. I wonder what they're costing Yorkshire, in comparison to what Gayle cost Somerset.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:05 pm

Henriques has reportedly got a broken jaw and missing some teeth.


Burns was unconscious for several minutes.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby dan08 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:07 pm

Broken jaw doesn't seem too bad given the circumstances. Could have been a lot worse.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:11 pm

st_brendy wrote:Finch and Maxwell both out inside three overs. I wonder what they're costing Yorkshire, in comparison to what Gayle cost Somerset.


55-6 now, in a 12 over aside game. Afridi on a hat-trick.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby dan08 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:09 pm

Henriques broke his jaw in three places.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:34 am

Good luck to Burns and Henriques. Seems they have gotten off lightly and are lucky not to have been more seriously injured after the incident.... I wish them a speedy recovery.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:05 am

Having said that, there is an issue I have here with the "result" in a sporting context, as I cant understand how this game has been registered as a "no result" when I doubt there is any context for awarding such a status to the match. To look at this in strictly a hard, cold way, Sussex have lost points based on the no result call even though conditions were consistent with play continuing. This could make the difference between QF and being knocked out, so it does matter.

I have looked at the rules, and there are no specific T20 Blast rules that govern this, or the non-First Class general rules from the ECB. The general laws of the game, rule 16.9(d) state.... the match is concluded if....

(d)" if, without the match being concluded.........on the grounds of exceptional circumstances, no further play is possible"


Play was possible though, they chose to simply not play. In fact, if

Does this mean everytime a guy gets cut by a bouncer, the game should be abandoned? Where is the line here, both guys left the field conscious and giving the crowd thumbs up, so I am not really sure what precedent we are setting. Plenty of matches have been concluded with similar injuries..... the most noticeable and consistent with this example is Sri Lanka v Australia in 1998/99 when Waugh's face met Jason Gillespies leg in a collision.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby Ali888 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:57 am

sussexpob wrote:Having said that, there is an issue I have here with the "result" in a sporting context, as I cant understand how this game has been registered as a "no result" when I doubt there is any context for awarding such a status to the match. To look at this in strictly a hard, cold way, Sussex have lost points based on the no result call even though conditions were consistent with play continuing. This could make the difference between QF and being knocked out, so it does matter.



Sussex *may* have lost points. A Surrey victory wasn't completely impossible!
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:52 am

Ali888 wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Having said that, there is an issue I have here with the "result" in a sporting context, as I cant understand how this game has been registered as a "no result" when I doubt there is any context for awarding such a status to the match. To look at this in strictly a hard, cold way, Sussex have lost points based on the no result call even though conditions were consistent with play continuing. This could make the difference between QF and being knocked out, so it does matter.



Sussex *may* have lost points. A Surrey victory wasn't completely impossible!


The main issue is the premature abandonment, the result itself and which way it goes is debatable, but if Sussex miss the QF's by a point you have to ask what precedent has been set and ask why the umpires felt that play could not continue? There are examples where injuries this horrific have occurred and the match has played on, as noted in Sri Lanka when Gillespie and Waugh were military helicoptered out the ground to hospital after a long delay resulting from a collision.... what ruling or justification was used in this instance to play on?

Obviously, when you get a Phil Hughes situation with a guy clearly in a very bad way to the point where its clear he is either not going to survive or you cannot tell, then the game gets called off, no questions.

In this situation both players left the field acknowledging the applause from the crowd, and both were apparently upright and "chatting" to staff members who went to hospital with them. They were injured badly, but bad enough to call a match off?

As I asked before, where is the line? If Justin Langer gets hit by Ntini again and doesn't know where he is.... do we call off the game? What about when Brett Lee knocked Alex Tudor out at the WACA with a 90mph plus thunderbolt on the quickest pitch in the world? Do we send in Harmison after Tudor is stretched off bleeding from his eye socket, or do we call it off?

Players are hurt all the time in sport, but surely an abandoned match should only result in the cases of extreme and life threatening injury? Someone like Muamba having a heart attack and not breathing for several minutes is another example of an occasion you clearly don't play on, but if they are chatting and conscious, I cant see why?
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby KipperJohn » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:31 pm

I think the fact that they were both completely unconscious from what I've heard and required CPR is the significant point - we all know the possible ramifications from head injuries and it is quite likely that many of the players simply didn't want to carry on.

I mean it's cricket not Formula 1. Fortunately these incidents are rare and many, including players and spectators, are in a state of shock at what they see.

I just wish them both the best and that there are no after effects.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:47 pm

Press are saying that today's match was in doubt, and the match yesterday was called off in response to the feelings of the players.

Doesn't sound as if there was any CPR. The players were unconscious, and given oxygen and fluids.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby KipperJohn » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:58 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Press are saying that today's match was in doubt, and the match yesterday was called off in response to the feelings of the players.

Doesn't sound as if there was any CPR. The players were unconscious, and given oxygen and fluids.


Sorry my mistake Arthur but it must have looked dreadful - especially with the medics etc. onfield for such a long time.

With Phil Hughes still much in everyone's' mind and a few other recent tragedies across the world of cricket, it's hardly surprising the game was called off.
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:05 pm

Philip Hughes gained consciousness only to die in hospital, so apart from the lack of appetite for the game from the players, it's possible that later developments could have made continuation look insensitive.

Why not reschedule the game?
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Re: NatWest t20 blast 2015

Postby dan08 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Another fantastic knock from Northeast. How did he not make the England squad?
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