Premiership 2014/2015

[budgetmeansbudget]

Apparently Sherwood and Ferdinand were being lined up 2 months ago when Newcastle were on a bad run. Steve Bruce is being talked about, don't think Ashley will want or can attract a big name as there is unlikely to be much money to spend.

I always get jittery when jobs at ordinary premier league clubs come up with Eddie Howe currently working wonders, although Newcastle are probably too big for his next move, and I'm sure he wants to see it through with us at least to the end of the season.

[Alviro Patterson]

I wonder who will get the Newcastle job then.

Gary Megson

[sussexpob]

I always get jittery when jobs at ordinary premier league clubs come up with Eddie Howe currently working wonders, although Newcastle are probably too big for his next move, and I'm sure he wants to see it through with us at least to the end of the season.

Eddie Howe is perfect for Mike Ashley.... he comes cheaper than most.

[durham_andy]

On what grounds would you sack Pardew? Keeping up a team with no net spend? Slashing the wage bill? Increasing the saleable assets at the club? Keeping them consistently acceptable in performance while building a squad?

I think his average position is about 10th or 11th in 5 years after Newcastle were relegated.

What is acceptable? Do you think Pardew should be in Europe every year, beating teams like Liverpool to the top 6?

What is acceptable? We should be challenging for Europa League most seasons (not saying we should qualify but should be there or there abouts - say top 8).

On what grounds would I sack Pardew?
1 - The man is very unprofessional, pushing the linesman and headbutting David Meyler are obvious points to prove this
2 - The endless excuses that he comes up with including; fans being too loud, fans being too quiet, social media, the Europa League, the length of grass, the Notting Hill Carnival, agents, young players the nation of Senegal and the best of the lot: Science. More can be found at http://sackpardew.com/quotes/excuses/

Time for some stats:
3 - Alan Pardew is the first Newcastle manager to lose 4 derbies in a row
4 - Alan Pardew was the first Newcastle manager to lose 6 consecutive Premier League games
5 - In the 2013-14 season, Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a goal – the first time in the club’s entire history that this has happened
6 - Take out the 5th season and Pardew's league record is P117 W39 D26 L52 F142 A187 GD-45. Win percentage of 33%. 143 points from 351.
7 - Before the Everton game, Newcastle had scored 33 goals in 38 games
8 - The win against Everton was only the 6th time Newcastle have come from behind to win under Pardew
9 - Newcastle have conceded 3 or more goals 11 times in 2014
10 - Over 3 seasons Pardew has lost 48% of games
11 - Only once has Pardew guided Newcastle past the third round of the F.A Cup
12 - Alan Pardew was in charge of Newcastle's worst home defeat in 87 years.

I could go on but I think you get the idea. Add all of that to the fact that the football is some of the most boring football I've ever watched (and not just from Newcastle) lacking any creativity and often relying on long balls and you get a manager who not many Newcastle fans like.

[The Waugh Twins]

On the 12th point of Christmas my true fans gave to me ....................a Pardew in a pear tree.

[The Waugh Twins]

On the 12th point of Christmas my true fans gave to me ....................a Pardew in a pear tree.

I think it's a pretty good argument

[sussexpob]

What is acceptable? We should be challenging for Europa League most seasons (not saying we should qualify but should be there or there abouts - say top 8)

So, acceptability is over performing consistently against teams that have spent vastly more than you have? Remember, Newcastle have a high risk strategy of limited net spending trying to find bargains that may not pay off at all, and then selling them for profit, to be replaced by other high risk players. Its not a recipe for progress, not at all.

Let me ask, who would you appoint? How many managers of a top level are going to accept the policy of "sell your best players if you want money"?

None!!!

I remember the last time the fans hounded out one of your managers....... you appointed 6 different managers the following season and got relegated, while the person in question is currently one win off the Champions League having been given time and a bit of backing, at a smaller club.

So you rather risk 8th instead of 10th by giving the job to someone unproven?

Remember, Pulis may sound brilliant, but he spent loads at Stoke trying to improve Stoke in a way that you want Newcastle to (mid table team pushing to Europe).... he ended up spending loads of money and got the sack when he found out spending 11 million on a striker doesnt compete with Liverpool spending 100mill for 6th place.

[SaintPowelly]

Apparently Mike Ashley is a fan of Steve McLaren, whether he'd be willing to pay compensation to Derby is another matter.

Sitting on the fence a little bit, I can understand "Durham Andy" on wanting Pardew gone if the football is poor, but likewise the point Pob makes is "who can do a better job?"

I'm not really sure why Newcastle fans get a reputation for being fickle.

This is probably why...

What is acceptable? We should be challenging for Europa League most seasons

[Alviro Patterson]

Apparently Sherwood and Ferdinand were being lined up 2 months ago when Newcastle were on a bad run. Steve Bruce is being talked about, don't think Ashley will want or can attract a big name as there is unlikely to be much money to spend.

I always get jittery when jobs at ordinary premier league clubs come up with Eddie Howe currently working wonders, although Newcastle are probably too big for his next move, and I'm sure he wants to see it through with us at least to the end of the season.

Eddie Howe has too much to lose by going for a bigger job in the short to medium term and his spell at Burnley wasn't successful, though he did leave a legacy for Sean Dyche to build on. Premier League Clubs or recently relegated ones do not allow paitence to build, unless if a manager is a fans favourite like Nigel Pearson is with Leicester or Roberto Martinez was with Wigan.

[sussexpob]

Apparently Sherwood and Ferdinand were being lined up 2 months ago when Newcastle were on a bad run. Steve Bruce is being talked about, don't think Ashley will want or can attract a big name as there is unlikely to be much money to spend.

I always get jittery when jobs at ordinary premier league clubs come up with Eddie Howe currently working wonders, although Newcastle are probably too big for his next move, and I'm sure he wants to see it through with us at least to the end of the season.

Eddie Howe has too much to lose by going for a bigger job in the short to medium term and his spell at Burnley wasn't successful, though he did leave a legacy for Sean Dyche to build on. Premier League Clubs or recently relegated ones do not allow paitence to build, unless if a manager is a fans favourite like Nigel Pearson is with Leicester or Roberto Martinez was with Wigan.

If Howe wouldnt take the Newcastle job, then who would give him one? You have to manage a club like Newcastle to go any further, like Rodgers did at Swansea.

Newcastle is the biggest job Howe could get, he would be crazy to turn it down,

[sussexpob]

And, another point about Newcastle fans...... I do remember the uproar and moaning about selling Andy Carroll

They got 35 million for Andy Carroll..... and people moaned.

Hindsight actually shows that was possibly the greatest piece of business in football history

[Gingerfinch]

Brilliant goal from Lallana.

[sussexpob]

Does Jonjo still think he plays for Liverpool? Shocking defending from Swansea 2nd half

[Alviro Patterson]

Apparently Sherwood and Ferdinand were being lined up 2 months ago when Newcastle were on a bad run. Steve Bruce is being talked about, don't think Ashley will want or can attract a big name as there is unlikely to be much money to spend.

I always get jittery when jobs at ordinary premier league clubs come up with Eddie Howe currently working wonders, although Newcastle are probably too big for his next move, and I'm sure he wants to see it through with us at least to the end of the season.

Eddie Howe has too much to lose by going for a bigger job in the short to medium term and his spell at Burnley wasn't successful, though he did leave a legacy for Sean Dyche to build on. Premier League Clubs or recently relegated ones do not allow paitence to build, unless if a manager is a fans favourite like Nigel Pearson is with Leicester or Roberto Martinez was with Wigan.

If Howe wouldnt take the Newcastle job, then who would give him one? You have to manage a club like Newcastle to go any further, like Rodgers did at Swansea.

Newcastle is the biggest job Howe could get, he would be crazy to turn it down,

Howe did leave Burnley and returned to Bournemouth for family reasons.

Sometimes prospective managers move to that bigger club too soon, only for it not to work out and find themselves back at square one. From Howe's perspective he is a club legend at Bournemouth, job security and isn't a proven manager in the higher tier just yet. Why risk all of that for a shot at a big time, when he could probably progress as a manager by staying put.

[sussexpob]

Howe did leave Burnley and returned to Bournemouth for family reasons

Or, alternatively, he was savvy enough to know that he was a 35 year old manager people were keeping a close eye on, and jumped from the sinking ship with Burnley 17th in the league, despite having arguably one of the best Championship strike forces ever assembled ( Jay Rodriguez, Charlie Austin, Sam Vokes and Danny Ings.... and a great overall squad).

He was getting sacked, there was no doubt about that.

Sometimes prospective managers move to that bigger club too soon

He has been a manager for about 7-8 years, at what stage is he ready? I hardly think that is too soon.

only for it not to work out and find themselves back at square one.

Just like after Burnley.

From Howe's perspective he is a club legend at Bournemouth, job security and isn't a proven manager in the higher tier just yet. Why risk all of that for a shot at a big time, when he could probably progress as a manager by staying put.

Well, there is lots of money, managing a club of 55,000 regular attendees, being a premier league manager at a reputable club..... and there is managing at Bournemouth, which is probably not the same by any stretch.

All people are surely looking for a shot at the "big time"..... and Howe isnt going to get a top 4 club without cutting it at least in a Premier League mid table side, so he HAS to move to a club like Newcastle if he wants to progress.