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Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:51 amby ddb
rich1uk wrote:i hope this isn't taken in the wrong context but i think sometimes we get a bit sensitive about what is really just name calling rather than racism
There's no way calling someone a "black *modded*" isn't racism, to call it name calling is ridiculous tbh. *modded* itself is an insult then adding black to that in this context is of course racist, what else could it be?
We know why this is taking time because he's the England captain.
Any other player would have be banned straight away.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:52 amby Aidan11
The papers are laying in to Blatter this morning and rightly so.
Sadly he will just shrug his shoulders and say "Crisis? What crisis?".
The man has totally lost it.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:57 amby rich1uk
ddb wrote:rich1uk wrote:i hope this isn't taken in the wrong context but i think sometimes we get a bit sensitive about what is really just name calling rather than racism
There's no way calling someone a "black *modded*" isn't racism, to call it name calling is ridiculous tbh. *modded* itself is an insult.
We know why this is taking time because he's the England captain.
Any other player would have be banned straight away.
sorry but still gonna disagree
racism is about discrimination and name calling in the heat of the moment isn't the same thing imo
if john terry went out of his way to single out ferdinand then that would perhaps be racism
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:00 amby ddb
But he's targeted Anton through being black, the moment you do that, it's discriminatory.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:01 amby Gingerfinch
ddb
I've said plenty of things in the heat of the moment when I use to play Football, although nothing racist and that is the truth but I can understand a player coming out with such a remark, although I don't condone it.
Best thing Terry could have done was to admit it (if he did say it) and apologise straight away.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:02 amby rich1uk
ddb wrote:But he's targeted Anton through being black, the moment you do that, it's discriminatory.
he didn't target him tho , he was involved in an altercation with him which resulted in name calling
if he had been involved in the same sort of altercation with joey barton he would probbaly have called him a scouse b*****d , is that still racism or is it name calling ?
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:09 amby ddb
rich1uk wrote:he didn't target him tho , he was involved in an altercation with him which resulted in name calling
if he had been involved in the same sort of altercation with joey barton he would probbaly have called him a scouse b*****d , is that still racism or is it name calling ?
Sorry, that's way off. He targeted Anton for belonging to a race, it's nothing but discrimination. He looked for Anton's "weak point" and used it in the insult. To call it name calling is still ridiculous.
And scouse modded isn't attacking someone's skin colour but it is still also discrimination.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:15 amby rich1uk
ddb wrote:rich1uk wrote:he didn't target him tho , he was involved in an altercation with him which resulted in name calling
if he had been involved in the same sort of altercation with joey barton he would probbaly have called him a scouse b*****d , is that still racism or is it name calling ?
Sorry, that's way off. He targeted Anton for belonging to a race, it's nothing but discrimination. To call it name calling is still ridiculous.
i'm out of this discussion tbh as its not something that can be debated on this forum imo
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:29 amby mikesiva
I'm with ddb on this one....
If you call someone a jerk, it's an insult. If you call someone a white jerk, you are degrading the race of person involved in the insult, and that's racism....
Terry and Suarez need to be investigated fully on these charges....
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:32 amby Gingerfinch
What if somebody calls me a 'ginger jerk'?
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:49 amby Aidan11
Iamthewalrus wrote:What if somebody calls me a 'ginger jerk'?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6725653.stm
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:23 pmby SaintPowelly
Im with Rich on this, I dont think 1 comment in the heat of the moment defines someone as a racist.
I played a game once against a team full of black players, who gave nothing but racial abuse to me, all within earshot of the referee who did nothing. Now if I had of been making racist remarks, do you think I would of gone unpunished ??
The racism rules/laws are messed up as it is, white people abusing black people is racist and wrong, whilst black people abusing white people is "banter" and should be ignored ?
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:53 pmby Kim
No, it doesnt define hin as a racist - but hes made a racist comment and he should be punished for it.
You cant have heat of the moment as a defence. It's unworkable.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:56 pmby Gingerfinch
Kim wrote:No, it doesnt define hin as a racist - but hes made a racist comment and he should be punished for it.
You cant have heat of the moment as a defence. It's unworkable.
I agree that he should be fined but I'm with you, this doesn't mean he is a racist and that's what a lot of people will think.
He may be an egotistic prat but hey, there's a few of them around.
Re: Racism in English football?
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:49 pmby st_brendy