Premiership 2014/2015

[ddb]

Gerrard 90th min pen to save a draw is coming up.

[dan08]

Lol Liverpool!

[sussexpob]

Well... Gerrard ends the way he has always played.... by not winning anything.

[Aidan11]

CL football for Man U next season now mathematically certain.

[ddb]

"Won pretty much everything"

haha, Sky. What a fitting way for him to go.

[sussexpob]

"Won pretty much everything"

haha, Sky. What a fitting way for him to go.

Who can forget that magical Champions League run....... the "goal" that knocked out Chelsea that never crossed the line, Gerrard charging into the box at 3-2 down in the Milan game and pulling off the worst dive in the history of football for a penalty..... the fact he then bottled taking that penalty, and bottled then taking a penalty in the shoot out. What a hero.

[sussexpob]

It is really funny, because all Gerrard is known for outside of England is for being incredibly over-rated, and being the man that took the best English player in modern history's position in the national team despite being an utter failure consistently.

He really wasnt that good. Very flawed player

[Gingerfinch]

Scholes won the BBC on-line poll, asking who is the best centre midfielder of the premiership era. Can't really argue with that. Gerrard was second, thrashing players like Keane, and Viera. I'm guessing some of the voters are quite young.

[yuppie]

Well... Gerrard ends the way he has always played.... by not winning anything.

This is Gerrards records

STEVEN GERRARD CAREER HONOURS

TROPHIES:

2 FA Cups: 2001, 2006
3 League Cups: 2001, 2003, 2012
2 FA Community Shields: 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League: 2005
UEFA Cup: 2001
2 UEFA Super Cups : 2001, 2005

INDIVIDUAL HONOURS:

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
2 PFA Fans' Player of the Year : 2001, 2009
7 PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
5 Premier League Player of the Month Award: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009
3 Liverpool Top Goalscorer: 2005, 2006, 2009
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012
3 UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
3 FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
Goal of the Season: 2006
England Player of the Year: 2007

Its not to bad at all. Yes he was overrated by the English, but he won a lot, and he was a good player. Was he better than Scholes, no, but who did he keep out of the England team? Was he the best Liverpool player ever, again for me that is a no by a long way. But he has been a great servant for Liverpool, one of England's best players in the last 15 years, and that's more down to the quality of the English team.

Am i over Gerrard's goodbye, yep, but after next week its all over. And i look forward to the Liverpool supporters demanding him as their coach at some time, and him not being up to it. But it does not take away from the fact he has achieved a lot in football, more than most, and yes he could play the game.

[sussexpob]

Better than Scholes, no, but who did he keep out of the England team?

Paul Scholes

[st_brendy]

I'd rather listen to the likes of Zidane and Henry, who rated Gerrard very highly. I suspect they know football talent when they see it.

Oh, and as for the ghost goal, for the final time (how many times over the years does it need to be said?!), had the goal not been given, almost certaintly Liverpool would have had a penalty and Cech would have been sent off.

[yuppie]

Better than Scholes, no, but who did he keep out of the England team?

Paul Scholes

No he didn't, No midfield player at that time played in their natural position. Lampard, Scholes, Beckham and Gerrard just did not work together and all suffered due to the fact the managers of England could not make a tough decision. But only one player decided to stop representing his country because he got played out of position.

[The Waugh Twins]

Steve Gerrard

Can't wait to see him come and play Real Salt Lake in September. Gunna be sitting in the front row.

One of England's greats in what at one time was an awesome England team, but has over the years not aged like a fine wine. Gerrard didn't either, but he was great.

I was staying in Earlscourt with my wife expecting our first watching the Champions League when he scored that insane goal. The window was open because it was hot and of course no air conditioner. The roar the went up outside was deafening and magical at the same time.

You have to remember Gerrard for his golden years and not for his latter.

[SaintPowelly]

How is John Carver still a manager in the Premier League? Surely the ball boys at Newcastle could do a better job? Just sack him for the last match and let the team play on instinct, they would have more of a chance of winning

Erm....don't you listen, hes still a manager because hes the best manager in the league, he told us all this last week in his press conference.

I like Newcastle, but part of me wants them to relegated and lose all that money just out of spite for the fact that idiot of a chairman put the worst manager he could find in charge on the basis that he was costing nothing. How ironic it would be for that decision to cost the club 50 million pounds plus and end in the championship?

Newcastle fans deserve better..... any other clubs fans would have left the stadium empty by 2008

Carvers an absolute pr*ck aswell, started a fight with Osvaldo last season and went to the Newcastle fans at St.Marys and told them to f*ck off.

[sussexpob]

One of England's greats in what at one time was an awesome England team

Awesome England teams that never beat anyone remotely considered as a contender in a major tournament while Gerrard was around. Interestingly, last time we did beat a decent team was in 2002, when Scholes was in his position and we beat the 1st or 2nd favourites for the tournament (and did not disgrace ourselves in losing to the other favourite in the end, who won the tournament and are arguably the best Brazil team since 1970).

No he didn't, No midfield player at that time played in their natural position. Lampard, Scholes, Beckham and Gerrard just did not work together and all suffered due to the fact the managers of England could not make a tough decision. But only one player decided to stop representing his country because he got played out of position.

Sven Goran Eriksson had a brain meltdown sometime before the 2004 Euro's, as he switched from a relatively successful system, dropped Butt, and put Gerrard and Lampard together. It is key to note here that Scholes was put on the left wing despite having the least compatibility out of all the players who could have. And Erikkson hardly showed faith in him in that position, he was subbed in every single match he played there, often replaced by pure and utter rubbish (Heskey and DARIUS VASSELL). There was no "tough" decision, he simply made a bad one that never paid of, the results of 10 years failure proved that with Lampard and Gerrard never playing well together.

To take the Guardian's article from that day as evidence.... they summed up England's 2004 exit to Portugal as.....

(a performance that has) raised a whole new battalion of critics here. Enjoying a 1-0 lead that had been attained with a balanced approach, the manager sought to retain it by replacing Paul Scholes......... as in the defeat by France, the opposition were offered the initiative and snapped it up.

England were leading in both the Portugal and France games very late, but allowed teams to come into the game after Scholes skills on the ball were taken away, and this put pressure onto the team.

To be perfectly frank, if I was Scholes I would have been utterly insulted. I could list basically every single person in football's thoughts on him.... literally, mention any midfielder or manager of his playing career, all praise Paul Scholes, with many of the greatest players around him saying he was the best player to have played.... Xavi, Zidane, Iniesta, Guardiola.... I could go on, even Messi says they had whole lessons on him at la mesia to learn how to play in the creative hole.Scholes was THAT good. By far and away the best English midfielder of our life time.

IF you were Glenn McGrath and Steve Waugh told you to bowl leg breaks for a whole world cup,would you stick around?