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Big call if it's o or 3, as that could affect the third place qualifiers.

sussexpob wrote:

budgetmeansbudget wrote:

yuppie wrote:Russia hit with a fine and a suspeneded disqualification.

England might end up with three points from their first game yet....

I guess we would lose the point we had gained from the draw if Russia are disqualified as all their results would be null and void.

No, because you then couldnt have a team they didnt play not score that point or gain three without a match.

All teams get 0 or all teams get 3.

That's what I said!

The game would be null and void, no points would be awarded for any games involving Russia, and only matches between the remaining three teams would count. How that would work when choosing the four best third placed teams because in our group only two games would count. I guess it would be points gained divided by games played?

I'd be amazed if any country was expelled due to the problems it could cause financially. And that's not even taking into account the consequences of any legal action taken by the relevant FA.

A better deterrent would have been for FIFA to threaten to remove Russia's hosting of the next World Cup. They wouldn't of course but the threat would make Russia get their house in order.

Aidan11 wrote:I'd be amazed if any country was expelled due to the problems it could cause financially. And that's not even taking into account the consequences of any legal action taken by the relevant FA.

A better deterrent would have been for FIFA to threaten to remove Russia's hosting of the next World Cup. They wouldn't of course but the threat would make Russia get their house in order.

I think that now they have made the decision they would have to follow it through otherwise they would look like fools.

This decision is subject to appeal however.

budgetmeansbudget wrote:

sussexpob wrote:

budgetmeansbudget wrote:

yuppie wrote:Russia hit with a fine and a suspeneded disqualification.

England might end up with three points from their first game yet....

I guess we would lose the point we had gained from the draw if Russia are disqualified as all their results would be null and void.

No, because you then couldnt have a team they didnt play not score that point or gain three without a match.

All teams get 0 or all teams get 3.

That's what I said!

The game would be null and void, no points would be awarded for any games involving Russia, and only matches between the remaining three teams would count. How that would work when choosing the four best third placed teams because in our group only two games would count. I guess it would be points gained divided by games played?

Yes I misread the part about losing the point

"Russia will be thrown out of Euro 2016 if their fans cause further trouble, says European governing body Uefa. The Russians have also been fined 150,000 euro (£119,000) following violent scenes at the game against England in Marseille on Saturday. The suspended disqualification and fine relate only to incidents that happened inside the stadium. Meanwhile, groups of Russian fans are also being deported from France as a result of trouble at the tournament. A French police operation to arrest 40 suspected Russian hooligans is under way."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36528403

The World Cup in Russia in 2018 will be interesting....

Been kicking off in Lille after the Russia Slovakia game.

Tear gas being deployed, Russian Ultras popping up, loud bangs going off, English and Wales fans reacting.

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Been kicking off in Lille after the Russia Slovakia game.

Tear gas being deployed, Russian Ultras popping up, loud bangs going off, English and Wales fans reacting.

but will the authorities follow through and expel Russia?

Red Devil wrote:

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Been kicking off in Lille after the Russia Slovakia game.

Tear gas being deployed, Russian Ultras popping up, loud bangs going off, English and Wales fans reacting.

but will the authorities follow through and expel Russia?

There seems to be a confusion between to principles as far as I am aware.

UEFA cannot expel Russia for violence outside the stadium. They can only do it if there is evidence inside the stadium.

Pictures are starting to look bad. Things could really kick off as more Russian fans enter Lille after their game.

This is really poor. England had a slight moral high ground that they are going to piss over now.

sussexpob wrote:

Red Devil wrote:

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Been kicking off in Lille after the Russia Slovakia game.

Tear gas being deployed, Russian Ultras popping up, loud bangs going off, English and Wales fans reacting.

but will the authorities follow through and expel Russia?

There seems to be a confusion between to principles as far as I am aware.

UEFA cannot expel Russia for violence outside the stadium. They can only do it if there is evidence inside the stadium.

apparently the russian fans were setting off flares again in the stadium after they scored their goal. will uefa see that as an expulsion matter... I doubt it... presumably it will be seen as a 'turn a blind eye' opportunity

British fans seem to be looking for a fight, according to this story....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... fresh-cla/

'These are the scenes as hundreds of English and Welsh thugs roam around Lille screaming "F*** off Russia, we're England and Wales." Just seconds later The Telegraph was caught up in a police kettle as armed officers swarmed and set off tear gas. Bottles were thrown at police before supporters eventually escaped up side streets. The scenes are set to worsen as more Russian fans return to the town centre and darkness falls.'

Add to the mix a number of groups who have supposedly been organising themselves to go over to France in response to the events on Saturday to take on the Russian Ultras. Sooner them than me!

Pictures on Facebook showing groups of English youngsters with faces masked behind scarves swearing vengeance. Must admit they mostly looked like a bunch of kids who wouldn't stand much of a chance against trained fighters. Mind you strength in numbers and thousands of English fans already out there will result in carnage.

seems to be dying down...police have learnt a lesson

sussexpob wrote:seems to be dying down...police have learnt a lesson

Let's hope the fans have learnt a lesson....

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 84361.html

"England fans ignored pleas from the Football Association on Wednesday night by becoming involved in clashes and running battles with French police, bringing shame to the nation and football. British police officers played a vital role in preventing situation from escalating even further – persuading the French to let them use diplomacy and negotiating skills to reason with English drunks as the situation escalated. French riot police told senior British officers that water cannon would be deployed if they could not deal with unruly English, including one group who had been unhappy when a bar stopped serving alcohol earlier than anticipated. The British negotiators – or ‘spotters’ – managed to de-escalate that situation."