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Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:40 am
by Aidan11
FIFA officials arrested.


None of this will affect Blatter and his football mafia.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:42 am
by braveneutral
Pretty scandalous.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:44 am
by sussexpob
No doubt that a few office juniors are going to be arrested to save their masters, or alternatively its probably people linked to those standing against Blatter that have been arrested.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:03 pm
by yuppie
Pretty amazing morning for FIFA. 2 vice presidents arrested :shock:

Surely this is not good news for Blatter, all happened on his watch. But he will get away with it.

Just curious to know how FIFA can have vice presidents from the Caymen Island, New Guinee, Northern Ireland. All footballing power houses there.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:31 pm
by sussexpob
I hope Jack Warner is given the opportunity to live out the rest of his days in a prison cell..... along with others.

Typical FIFA to ignore it and say the show goes on either way.....

I think no one will take FIFA or the investigation seriously until Blatter is behind bars, and FIFA elect a new president.

The fact Blatter is still favourite to win on Friday is amazing.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:35 pm
by Aidan11
Blatter is the Teflon Don.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 3:30 pm
by mikesiva
yuppie wrote:Pretty amazing morning for FIFA. 2 vice presidents arrested :shock:

Surely this is not good news for Blatter, all happened on his watch. But he will get away with it.

Just curious to know how FIFA can have vice presidents from the Caymen Island, New Guinee, Northern Ireland. All footballing power houses there.


Curious that...Northern Ireland is one of the British nations of the United Kingdom, while Cayman is a British colony.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:38 pm
by sussexpob
mikesiva wrote:Curious that...Northern Ireland is one of the British nations of the United Kingdom, while Cayman is a British colony.


Jim Boyce is a prominent Nationalist supporter, was president of Cliftonville ( a strongly catholic and nationalist fan base), and is famous for campaigning for years as IFA President to remove the requirement that all NI players had to carry a passport of the UK when playing games abroad, which was a FIFA requirement...... I can categorically state with 100% certainty that Mr Boyce in no way associates himself as a British Citizen.

Cayman Islands is an offshore tax haven.... ironically, Webb was once in charge of transparency and compliance committees of FIFA.... :facepalm

You cant make that up

FIFA corruption scandal

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:12 pm
by KipperJohn
sussexpob wrote:I hope Jack Warner is given the opportunity to live out the rest of his days in a prison cell..... along with others.

Typical FIFA to ignore it and say the show goes on either way.....

I think no one will take FIFA or the investigation seriously until Blatter is behind bars, and FIFA elect a new president.

The fact Blatter is still favourite to win on Friday is amazing.


:thumb
Yet few members, if any, will ever have the courage to leave FIFA altogether. It really needs disbanding,and a fresh organisation with a new constitution put in place, but there are so many vested interests and financial looses at stake that it won't happen

The billions of fans who pay for it all need their football and that's what Blatter and his ilk rely on.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:23 pm
by Aidan11
I thought by now that Blatter would have come out and said he's surprised that bribery and corruption are considered to be a crime and that everyone should shake hands and move on.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:48 pm
by budgetmeansbudget
If the US are prepared to follow these corruption charges through to conclusion and blow FIFA apart once and for all then I'm even prepared to listen to them patronisingly refer to the game as 'soccer'.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:53 pm
by yuppie
budgetmeansbudget wrote:If the US are prepared to follow these corruption charges through to conclusion and blow FIFA apart once and for all then I'm even prepared to listen to them patronisingly refer to the game as 'soccer'.



Yep i would accept that as well. Call it FISA

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:25 pm
by Aidan11
I thought they were called THIEFA.

Re: Random footie

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:04 am
by mikesiva
Given how this story is developing, I thought it deserved its own thread....

sussexpob wrote:
mikesiva wrote:Curious that...Northern Ireland is one of the British nations of the United Kingdom, while Cayman is a British colony.


Jim Boyce is a prominent Nationalist supporter, was president of Cliftonville ( a strongly catholic and nationalist fan base), and is famous for campaigning for years as IFA President to remove the requirement that all NI players had to carry a passport of the UK when playing games abroad, which was a FIFA requirement...... I can categorically state with 100% certainty that Mr Boyce in no way associates himself as a British Citizen.

Cayman Islands is an offshore tax haven.... ironically, Webb was once in charge of transparency and compliance committees of FIFA.... :facepalm

You cant make that up

This is very interesting about Boyce...I didn't know that.

As for Cayman, this has been one of my pet peeves...IMHO Britain needs to deal with its overseas territories. This status of not-exactly-colony-not-exactly-independent helps no one except the tax dodgers....

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20213

Interestingly, this whole thing was blown open by the US investigation into one of their own, Chuck Blazer:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 79922.html

"Initially hailed as “whistleblower” for revealing Warner’s misdeeds, Blazer himself quickly came under scrutiny from investigators as his right-hand man for nearly two decades. Blazer was accused of defrauding Concacaf in 2013 and was forced to resign. By that time the FBI and US tax investigators had already applied pressure on him and persuaded him to co-operate with their investigation. The full extent of that co-operation is still to be disclosed but it has been revealed that Blazer set up a series of meetings with other Fifa officials, including some which took place in a London Mayfair hotel during the 2012 Olympics. He is said to have gone to the meetings armed with a specially adapted key fob with a tiny microphone embedded which enabled FBI agents to record conversations."

Of course, the Americans are primarily interested in cleaning up their own patch. Concacaf has offices in the US, so corruption within Concacaf directly affects American law.

The problem with Blatter is that he's European, and most of his crimes have probably not been committed on US soil. It's up to the Europeans to take a leaf out of the Americans' book, and compile a case against Blatter....

Re: FIFA corruption scandal

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:34 am
by sussexpob
As for Cayman, this has been one of my pet peeves...IMHO Britain needs to deal with its overseas territories. This status of not-exactly-colony-not-exactly-independent helps no one except the tax dodgers....


Which is the way that most people like it, Mike. Too much money is pumped into places like the Cayman Islands, too many rich people making more money, not enough tax being paid on it.

Why would a rich persons government change that