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Noel Blake is still England U19 manager. So it's not like there are no black football managers influencing top flight football.

GG - Amir Sohail wrote:Noel Blake is still England U19 manager. So it's not like there are no black football managers influencing top flight football.

and Andy Preece is still at Airbus UK Broughton, who are 2nd in the Welsh Premier.

Alviro Patterson wrote:

GG - Amir Sohail wrote:Noel Blake is still England U19 manager. So it's not like there are no black football managers influencing top flight football.

and Andy Preece is still at Airbus UK Broughton, who are 2nd in the Welsh Premier.

'New Huddersfield Town manager Chris Powell has called on football’s chiefs to address the lack of management opportunities for black coaches. Before he took over at the west ­Yorkshire outfit earlier this week not one of the 92 league clubs had a black manager. Powell, Chris Hughton and Chris Kiwomya were the only three last season – and all were sacked from their posts, leading anti-racist campaigners to argue there was a glass ceiling in English football. “It’s a question of being positive rather than negative,” said Powell, who was axed as Charlton manager in March, and has now replaced interim Huddersfield boss Mark Lillis in the Town hot seat.'



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Hughton will find work soon enough

sussexpob wrote:Hughton will find work soon enough

If the Leeds owner had half a brain cell, he'd be employed there, apparently he would prefer an Italian though.

SaintPowelly wrote:

sussexpob wrote:Hughton will find work soon enough

If the Leeds owner had half a brain cell, he'd be employed there, apparently he would prefer an Italian though.

He needed to be sacked by Norwich because they were listless at the end, but he is still a very good manager with time on his side.

For a championship club he would be brilliant anywhere...

SaintPowelly wrote:

sussexpob wrote:Hughton will find work soon enough

If the Leeds owner had half a brain cell, he'd be employed there, apparently he would prefer an Italian though.

No self respecting manager would ever go to Elland Road

sussexpob wrote:

SaintPowelly wrote:

sussexpob wrote:Hughton will find work soon enough

If the Leeds owner had half a brain cell, he'd be employed there, apparently he would prefer an Italian though.

He needed to be sacked by Norwich because they were listless at the end, but he is still a very good manager with time on his side.

For a championship club he would be brilliant anywhere...

Half expecting Hughton to become manager of Fulham in the non too distant future.

This articles highlights a lot of what I feel about this....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ooney-rule

'Gordon Taylor has accused football sides of “a hidden racism which holds clubs back” when it comes to appointing black managers and called for the introduction of the “Rooney Rule” in use in American football to ensure that black candidates have an adequate representation on interview shortlists for coaching positions. The chief executive of the Professional Footballers’ Association told the BBC that the appointment of black players as coaches “should be based on merit” and he said that they had “merit as players and merit as coaches”. He added: “I can give you a list of black players who’ve become coaches, who’ve got their A licence, who’ve got their B licence, who’ve gone all the way up the ranks, they’ve got the pro-licence and aren’t getting opportunities. So I know for a fact they’ve got that merit but there is a hidden racism that seems to hold clubs back.” Taylor praised Huddersfield for appointing Chris Powell after he was sacked by Charlton in March though he is now only one of two black managers employed by the 92 clubs in English football along with Keith Curle at Carlisle. “Can we not have a recruitment process that is open and transparent and contains black, asian, minority or ethnic people who are qualified? said Taylor. “They have the Rooney Rule in gridiron because they similarly had a high number of black players but no black coaches. The rule was introduced to say look, at least make sure you’ve interviewed some of these players who want to stay in the game and then they found, not unsurprisingly, that they had some real quality players who became top-class black coaches. But in this country that’s not happened and we are merely asking for a recruitment process that is open and transparent and does exactly that.”'

I understand there are 16 Black coaches in the UK with both the Uefa A and B qualifications out of 200.

Does anyone know who they all are? And do they all want to become full time managers?

yuppie wrote:I understand there are 16 Black coaches in the UK with both the Uefa A and B qualifications out of 200.

Does anyone know who they all are? And do they all want to become full time managers?

According to some scouting on line there are some noticeable names on this list, some really overlooked quality that is unfairly overlooked.

Keith Curle - Employed

Chris Powel - Employed

Noel Blake - Was Exeter Manager for about 2 years..... was sacked after finishing only a few points from the bottom of the football league in two seasons. Had a 22% win ratio in professional football. Currently manages England U-19's.

Hope Powell - No experience of men's football

Chris Hughton - Has managed a Premier League side in the last year.

Iffy Onoura - Relegated Swindon in his only season as a permanent manager, winning only 9 games in the season 2005-06. Currently FA coach on equal opportunities, having been short term replacement for Lincoln when their manager had throat cancer treatment, and a 10 month chance as Ethopia coach, that ended with his sacking.

Leroy Rosenior - 1st job as Gloucester manager ended in relegation from the Conference. Second job he got Torquay Promoted, but then relegated the season after, and was sacked after being bottom of the football league the year after. Took over Brentford next, but was sacked after not winning for 16 games.

Keith Alexander - Passed away a few years back

Paul Ince - Only real success with a heavily funded MK Dons team in League Two, after that his Blackpool and Blackburn stints were pretty poor

Chris Ramsey - Only experience in management was ten years ago, in the third tier of USA football. Now works for the FA having been in the coaching setup of Tottenham for several years, managing the U17's. Holds a diploma in teaching coaches, and has worked in that capacity for the FA.

Paul Davis - Works for the PFA as a senior coach educator, and has not coached a team since he works with Arsenals youth team 11 years ago.... by his own admission he does not apply for jobs.

Terry Conner - Never won a game in 15 as manager, and in combination with McCartney, gave Wolves on of their lowest points hauls in history. Never managed in 3 or 4 matches.

Nas Bashir - Managed Hayes and Yeading to back to back relegations a few years ago in his only management job. Currently runs a Southern League Central Division League One side with another person.

Eddie Newton- Has been number 2 at Chelsea when they won the Champions League, never managed his own side. Currently works in Chelsea's Development Centre

Damian Matthew - Current Charlton number 2 - also worked at Chelsea's development centre.

Les Ferdinand (I think is the last one) - Works at Spurs, but refused to take his coaching badges until very recently, as he apparently couldn't spare two weeks to do them.

At the end of the day, I don't care what this PFA prat has to say just to get his name in the papers, until he comes up and fronts the goods about actual racism and actual evidence, then what he says is simply inflammatory paper material.

Its funny that a lot of the people who are high profile in the press about black manager opportunities are black high profile players who haven't done their coaching badges, therefore cant be managers.

Ian Wright for instance is hilarious when he said football clubs were racist because there are no black managers, but he never applied to coach before.... apparently because he was too outspoken to be England manager, and too black, so he didn't bother to coach at any level.

Jason Roberts.... not got opportunities apparently, but never did his coaching badges, so cant be a manager..... found time instead to make money in the press.

Clarke Carlisie.... supposed to be the smartest man in football, became a player representative over taking coaching badges

Les Ferdinand..... complained about the FA asking him to take a two week course because he had no time, didn't turn up to do it till last year, found time instead to be on Match of the Day a lot.

Sol Campbell... Decided to complain about racism before he even tried to earn his coaching badges... since starting he has had opportunities with the Welsh National Team and Arsenal.

Andy Cole.... moaned that he never got the opportunity to coach, but then he never tried and apparently refused to take his badges at Blackburn and Man U.... was so under privileged, he now works as the clubs Ambassador for the biggest footballing side in the world.....

Stan Collymore?.... Never going to make it with two arrests for assault on two women, and an admission he suffers from a violent personality disorder.

Id like to see some high profile black names for guys who wanted to be coaches but where rejected or not given an opportunity? Take black English players that were internationals

Jon Salako went into media
Ugo Ehiogu left to persue a career in music, didn't want to stay in the game
Ledley King ... started his coaching badges in April.
Dion Dublin... worked for Sky, and then BBC radio after playing.
David James... went straight into punditry for BT Sports
Emile Heskey.... stopped his coaching badges to play in Australia
Luther Blissett... Managed unsuccessfully
Jon Barnes.... Managed unsuccessfully... was christened "Dumb and Dumber" by Tranmere's playing staff.
Trevor Sinclair went straight into punditry
Carlton Palmer scares people in their baths
Cyrille Regis... became an agent after giving up coaching.

Where are the black players who have stopped playing who missed out?

Rio? Dafoe? Ashley Cole?