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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby mikesiva » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:52 pm

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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby captaincolly » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:53 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Been busy at work all day and unable to follow the score until now.

Now I'm glad I didn't. What a pathetic display.

Needless to say Bob Willis was not happy!
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby ianp1970 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:07 pm

sussexpob wrote:Even getting bowled out for 130 on double the overs would feel a billion times better. It's not the score or the failures, it's the fact no one seemed to try. They accepted defeat on day 2


Similar to the pessimistic prediction I made yesterday, about our 2nd innings run-rate, which all too predictably came home to roost...

...except with only a third of the runs and a third of the overs.

Pathetic!!

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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby bhaveshgor » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:30 pm

Looks likes the players can't take any of the criticism of the loss.
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:42 pm

crikey

what a bunch of *modded* wasters.

It feels like a long time since England have tried to bat a long time to save a test, without collapsing in a *modded* heap.

2010 Brisbane.... anything more recent than that?
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:42 pm

perhaps they were just expressing themselves?
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:43 pm

44 overs :no

what a shower
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:51 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:crikey

what a bunch of *modded* wasters.

It feels like a long time since England have tried to bat a long time to save a test, without collapsing in a *modded* heap.

2010 Brisbane.... anything more recent than that?


Last time England batted more than 100 overs to save a Test.

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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby ianp1970 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:21 pm

If we'd have batted 143 overs in the second innings at Nottingham this week - scoring at the same rate as in NZ - we'd still be 156 behind, 1 wicket in-hand, with 40 overs still to play tomorrow afternoon!

That's how much poorer we were against SA this time around, seems like the Kiwis let us off the hook by not declaring early enough...
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:43 pm

Lasted 96 overs in two innings in this game.
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:00 am

Durhamfootman wrote:crikey

what a bunch of *modded* wasters.

It feels like a long time since England have tried to bat a long time to save a test, without collapsing in a *modded* heap.

2010 Brisbane.... anything more recent than that?


2013 vs New Zealand was the last time, I think.

EDIT: I see AC beat me to it.
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby alfie » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:39 am

bigfluffylemon wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:lol is dawson the worse england player ever to play 3 test matches.


I see your crap England spinner, and raise you Ian Salisbury:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/con ... 20051.html

That said, Dawson is a complete waste of a spot in the current side. I think we all agree he needs to be replaced with a batsman.

I wouldn't pick Crane now, as the next tour is to Australia. They murder all but the very best spinners down there - it won't do anything for him except knock his confidence.

For all the typical bluster and bravado at the end of the day by the England team ('we believe we can save/win this game, we need to bat as well as we can, show some fight, etc.'), you just know that it'll all be over tomorrow with a pathetic capitulation. I don't think anyone expects them to win or draw this game now, but actually demonstrating some fight, making South Africa work damn hard for every wicket, and taking the game into day 5 would be something. But it'll all be over shortly after tea for a 200+ run defeat, assisted by some horrible shots against balls that should have been left alone. And they'll make excuses about 'we have to play our natural game, this is the way we play', rather than actually having enough professional skill to adapt their play to the situation.


That should have saved us all watching it , bfl - well predicted :)

Unfortunately I did tune in. Nothing to add...
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:04 am

alfie wrote:[quote="bigfluffylemon]
For all the typical bluster and bravado at the end of the day by the England team ('we believe we can save/win this game, we need to bat as well as we can, show some fight, etc.'), you just know that it'll all be over tomorrow with a pathetic capitulation. I don't think anyone expects them to win or draw this game now, but actually demonstrating some fight, making South Africa work damn hard for every wicket, and taking the game into day 5 would be something. But it'll all be over shortly after tea for a 200+ run defeat, assisted by some horrible shots against balls that should have been left alone. And they'll make excuses about 'we have to play our natural game, this is the way we play', rather than actually having enough professional skill to adapt their play to the situation.[/quote]

That should have saved us all watching it , bfl - well predicted :)

Unfortunately I did tune in. Nothing to add...[/quote]


I wasn't quite right - I gave us until after tea :no

Still, I'd have been happy to have been wrong.
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby bhaveshgor » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:14 am

Laughable they using the excuse of white ball cricket to say players can't play long innings now, especially considering India doesn't seem to have any problem batting in test.
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Re: Second Test: England v South Africa, Nottingham, July 14

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:50 am

bhaveshgor wrote:Laughable they using the excuse of white ball cricket to say players can't play long innings now, especially considering India doesn't seem to have any problem batting in test.


For once I agree with you bhaves.
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