England tour of West Indies

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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby meninblue » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:08 pm

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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby meninblue » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:41 pm

England win toss and opt to bat.

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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Slipstream » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:41 pm

Wood replaces Stone
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby andy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:43 pm

Hoped they had moved on from Wood :(
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:07 pm

Feels like a retro choice.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby bigfluffylemon » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:51 pm

andy wrote:Hoped they had moved on from Wood :(


Me too. I'm assuming it's a 'horses for courses' choice and he won't be around come the summer.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Slipstream » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:07 am

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But he did well on the Lions tour in the UAE so he is back. He was selected for the ODIs so he was going to the WI anyway. I think he will make way for Archer in March as Willey has improved.

England's batsmen are in for a shock, this year Roach 22.31 Gabriel 19.54 Holder 12.39 :scared
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:23 am

To be fair, they played 7 of their 9 tests against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, 5 of which were at home. So those stats are a little flattering.

But given the state of England's batting, they should still be nervous.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby mikesiva » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:48 am

In the first two-day game at Cave Hill, England made 317, led by knocks of 87 from Joe Root and 56 from Ben Stokes against spinner Bryan Charles (5-100) and pacer Chemar Holder (3-67). Pacers Jimmy Anderson (4-12) and Stuart Broad (4-19) were the leading wicket-takers as the President's XI lost 18 wickets for 203 runs.

The second game was only slightly more sensible, as England made 379 thanks mainly to Jonny Bairstow (98) and Rory Burns (68). Medium pacer Raymon Reifer took 3-39 and part-time spinner John Campbell 3-58. The President's XI were 233-11 (yes, eleven!) when the match was called off. Sunil Ambris made 94, while pacer Chris Woakes took 3-31.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby sussexpob » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:54 am

Why don't they just play one proper match, rather than these ridiculous 19 wicket innings?
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:12 pm

Yes. Might as well not bother putting out that WI team, which doesn't look the worst.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Slipstream » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:08 am

sussexpob wrote:Why don't they just play one proper match, rather than these ridiculous 19 wicket innings?


I read somewhere the WICB wanted a 4 day game and the ECB didn't.

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The use of the ball could become controversial by the end of the series. ESPNcricinfo understands that the former West Indies coaching regime, headed by Stuart Law and Nic Pothas, were keen to use a Kookaburra ball in this series on the basis that England have a history of struggling to gain much movement with it. They were also keen to play on slower, lower surfaces, such as in Guyana, in the hope of negating England's seamers and exploiting a perceived weakness in their batting.

But Johnny Grave, the CWI chief executive, decided on a different approach. He reasoned that the newly adapted Dukes ball, specially designed for use in the Caribbean after consultation between the manufacturer and CWI officials, would provide faster-moving, more entertaining cricket and avoid some of the attritional encounters seen between these sides in recent years. :clap
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby bigfluffylemon » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm

sussexpob wrote:Why don't they just play one proper match, rather than these ridiculous 19 wicket innings?


I have no idea.
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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Slipstream » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:33 am

We played 6 bowlers for 2 Tests v India and 2 against SL. Last Test it 5. It looks like now it is back to 5. I think Rashid got a central contract because they thought 2 spinners would be playing most matches. So will it be 4 seamers and Ali or 3 seamers and 2 spinners for the WI and Ashes?

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Re: England tour of West Indies

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:01 am

Could do though, that's very defensive thinking. Foakes could bat at six. That would leave Mo at seven, Curran (or Woakes) at eight and Rashid at nine.

But there's no really need to. Five bowlers is enough, and they can pick their best spinner regardless of his batting.
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