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Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:01 am
by ianp1970
GarlicJam wrote:
ianp1970 wrote:
bigfluffylemon wrote:No pressure England...


The bookies have England as 1 to 16 shots to reach the last 4 :shock:

I rarely 'get' odds, but I assume that is unbackable odds?

I also thought that England would do better if they were going into a pressure match, as this is (a little). Neither the Pak or SL games were.


Pretty much unbackable.

If you put on £100 and won you'd 'earn' £6.25

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:56 am
by bigfluffylemon
ianp1970 wrote:
ianp1970 wrote:
bigfluffylemon wrote:No pressure England...


The bookies have England as 1 to 16 shots to reach the last 4 :shock:


Even more surprisingly Pakistan (13/2) are less than half the price of Bangladesh (14/1) to qualify. With the winner of the match between the pair on July 5th the likely beneficiary of England losing their next 3 games, would Pakistan be heavy favourites on the day?


Bangladesh almost certainly have to beat India to qualify (unless England implode, not impossible). Pakistan have Bangladesh, Afghanistan and New Zealand still to play.

England should still make the last 4 with one more win from their last three games - while Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh could all theoretically overtake them, Pakistan would have to beat New Zealand and Sri Lanka and Bangladesh would have to beat India, as well as win all their other remaining games. And England have a massively superior NRR.

Furthermore, apparently England haven't lost two ODIs on the bounce since 2017, and that was away vs India, and they haven't lost two on the bounce at home since 2015. They won their most recent series against India, Australia and New Zealand - we know they're capable of beating those sides, and they have a W/L ratio of nearly 3-1 at home since the last world cup.

Logic and form says that England should still qualify.

So why when head says that, is heart so nervous?

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:14 am
by Arthur Crabtree
From listening on the radio, sounds like the Aussies have been lucky to keep wickets intact. Nevertheless, the scoreboard looks good for them.

Lyon and Befhendorrf in for Zampa and Nile. England unchanged.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:41 am
by captaincolly
Arthur Crabtree wrote:From listening on the radio, sounds like the Aussies have been lucky to keep wickets intact. Nevertheless, the scoreboard looks good for them.

Lyon and Befhendorrf in for Zampa and Nile. England unchanged.

They look more confident now. Wood and Archer expensive.
Too early to tell but right now they seem set for a very big score.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:45 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Yes, but sun is out later and might be easier to bat. And England will feel able to chase a big score. Still, the opportunity to knock the top off the Aussie batting and ensure a low score seems to have passed.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:48 am
by captaincolly
Suppose a concern for England is a couple of the batsman seem to be in indifferent form and the supposed strength in depth to the lineup hasn't been in evidence so far.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:14 pm
by GarlicJam
A good, responsible innings by Warner, as is his want lately. I think England did well to get out now, he looked like he was really building into a big one.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:14 pm
by mikesiva
Warner gets a half century, and out.
:clap

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:16 pm
by GarlicJam
I reckon Morgan is missing a trick by not getting Archer in to stick a few balls under Khawaja's chin. He's been susceptible to the well-directed bouncer lately.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:18 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Mo going for runs but gets a valuable wicket.

Maybe a case for putting in Maxwell in at three.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:55 pm
by mikesiva
Finch gets a century, and out.
:clap

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:02 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Slapsie gets in with 14 overs to go, which is too little.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:09 pm
by GarlicJam
More than enough...

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:12 pm
by GarlicJam
Good turnaround by England, after some sloppy fielding and some good Aus batting, they look like keeping Aus to a reasonable total.

Re: Cricket World Cup group stages, May 30 - July 6

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:14 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Maxwell goes anyway. Big wicket for England.