Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:06 pm

The Waugh Twins wrote:Do England have a team world cup in anything at the moment?

I think they have a chance in Oz. I can't imagine the euphoria on cricket match special if they were to win. When you look at the reactions when the Ryder Cup is won, and that's against a single country.


i can guarantee there would be considerably more posts if we lost all our games and came last than there would if we won the whole thing

when we win the forum is pretty quite, when we lose their will be pages and pages of stuff

i am watching the struggles of india/sri lanka/windies and thinking hmmm maybe we actually have some sort of chance
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby rich1uk » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:09 pm

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The Waugh Twins wrote:Do England have a team world cup in anything at the moment?

I think they have a chance in Oz. I can't imagine the euphoria on cricket match special if they were to win. When you look at the reactions when the Ryder Cup is won, and that's against a single country.


i can guarantee there would be considerably more posts if we lost all our games and came last than there would if we won the whole thing

when we win the forum is pretty quite, when we lose their will be pages and pages of stuff

i am watching the struggles of india/sri lanka/windies and thinking hmmm maybe we actually have some sort of chance


avoiding SA in the quarter-final would be a bonus
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:16 pm

Extremely unlikely England will finish higher than third in their group. But if they finish third, they will play India, and they have a notional chance in that contest. But if England get past the quarters, I'll eat a piece of cheese.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:18 pm

Nah, England will finish fourth at best in their group, so I'm safe there.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby rich1uk » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:23 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Nah, England will finish fourth at best in their group, so I'm safe there.


they wont finish lower than 4th

they wont lose to Scotland or Afghanistan and Bangladesh have gone backwards as a team imo
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:34 pm

I'm with rich on this. England's chances against both NZ and SL are not as bleak as they once appeared, though of course it will require good performances from several players on the same day.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby m@tt » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:01 pm

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rich1uk wrote:does concern me a bit how little flexibility we have in the squad , especially when the guy who is meant to be the one to provide that flexibility, bopara, is the guy who is struggling the most

its almost like we cant drop him because doing so leaves us with only joe root for bowling cover


Bizarre decision to take two spare batsmen out of four available slots. Names suggested on here at the time IIRC, included Stokes/Samit/Rashid/Willey.

They wanted to take Stokes. The place would have been his had he shown some form.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby ianp1970 » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:12 pm

m@tt wrote:
ianp1970 wrote:
rich1uk wrote:does concern me a bit how little flexibility we have in the squad , especially when the guy who is meant to be the one to provide that flexibility, bopara, is the guy who is struggling the most

its almost like we cant drop him because doing so leaves us with only joe root for bowling cover


Bizarre decision to take two spare batsmen out of four available slots. Names suggested on here at the time IIRC, included Stokes/Samit/Rashid/Willey.

They wanted to take Stokes. The place would have been his had he shown some form.


If that was the case, why did they pick a second batting replacement?
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby m@tt » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:23 pm

ianp1970 wrote:
m@tt wrote:
ianp1970 wrote:
rich1uk wrote:does concern me a bit how little flexibility we have in the squad , especially when the guy who is meant to be the one to provide that flexibility, bopara, is the guy who is struggling the most

its almost like we cant drop him because doing so leaves us with only joe root for bowling cover


Bizarre decision to take two spare batsmen out of four available slots. Names suggested on here at the time IIRC, included Stokes/Samit/Rashid/Willey.

They wanted to take Stokes. The place would have been his had he shown some form.


If that was the case, why did they pick a second batting replacement?

Have any other all rounders been picked recently? It's been a while since Patel played, about 5 years since Rashid, and I doubt England wanted another spinner. Ballance is someone they like. Was in ODI squads earlier in the year, did will in the tests and apparently impressed with the development squad.

I agree that the squad is imbalanced with Ballance instead of Stokes, but I can see why they went that way.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:41 am

SL have just beaten England home and away, so must be favourites in that head to head.

England's recent record is so bad that you have to actually be looking at it to comprehend it. If you lose focus you start thinking they must be better than they are.

Ballance came in for Cook didn't he?
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:42 am

Though I suppose Taylor was an addition to the SL squad, so they were already a batter up before Cook dropped out. Yes, it should have been two of Taylor, Ballance or Hales.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:44 am

Why am I more optimistic of England's chances then English supporters? Funnier and stranger things have happened than England winning crickets world cup.

Nothing comes to mind at the moment though.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:45 am

The Waugh Twins wrote:Why am I more optimistic of England's chances then English supporters? Funnier and stranger things have happened than England winning crickets world cup.

Nothing comes to mind at the moment though.


Yep I'm drawing a blank on that one to Mark.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:45 am

The Waugh Twins wrote:
The Waugh Twins wrote:Why am I more optimistic of England's chances then English supporters? Funnier and stranger things have happened than England winning crickets world cup.

Nothing comes to mind at the moment though.


Yep I'm drawing a blank on that one to Mark.


Lets ask Dean.
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Re: Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:45 am

Because you aren't staring at their record.
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