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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby dan08 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:29 am

Gingerfinch wrote:Smith's declaration was so early, you do wonder if it was personal. Two sessions left on day two, 6 wickets in hand, the weather set fine, and a man left stranded on 269.

Maybe he wanted 2 days off?
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby shankycricket » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:35 am

No matter how bad the opposition is, declaring at 583 is hardly unusual. Especially for a guy whose captaincy tenure has been marked with pitiful un-Australian conservatism, this was a welcome change.

Don't see how this absolute garbage of a team gets the privilege of a Boxing Day Test.
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:41 am

The score wasn't the issue, it was how soon it came, especially with a man unbeaten on 269 itching for a treble. I found it odd at the time, and still do.
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby The Professor » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:58 am

dan08 wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:Smith's declaration was so early, you do wonder if it was personal. Two sessions left on day two, 6 wickets in hand, the weather set fine, and a man left stranded on 269.

Maybe he wanted 2 days off?


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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby GarlicJam » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:28 am

from_the_stands wrote:Ok, so this match really sucked. Smith declared a session too soon; Voges deserved his triple, and the under fire Mitch Marsh could have scored some runs. My guess is that Australia will be Mitchless on Boxing Day when Khawaja comes back in.
I reckon 3 permutations have a better chance of happening than that - Aus selectors are very keen for MM to work. "An allrounder WILL be selected" is their mantra.

1. Uzzie won't be selected - unlikely
2. Shaun Marsh won't be selected - more likely
3. your boy, Joe Burns, won't be selected, and SMarsh opens. Maybe even more likely.

I will drink a beer if MMarsh is dropped. (far tastier than a hat)
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby GarlicJam » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:32 am

Gingerfinch wrote:The score wasn't the issue, it was how soon it came, especially with a man unbeaten on 269 itching for a treble. I found it odd at the time, and still do.

He was doing Voges a favour, by preserving his average against the Windies.

It's currently running at something like 436. Imagine if he got out, it would be around 230.....
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby mikesiva » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:13 am

GarlicJam wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Its incredibly bad for Windies cricket this. The problems must be even worse than we thought..... they let Marsh score 182!!! Possibly the worst day in the Windies cricket history.

and you think that this is a problem for the Windies?


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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby Toby F » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:23 pm

Not Sure what all the fuss about the declaration is. Smith would have declared earlier if there weren't showers before lunch probably. Other than Bravo and Brathwaite, Holder was the only one deserving credit. Bowled tidily and was unlucky with the bat. Hopefully two weeks of actually having a coach will get them better prepared for Melbourne.
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby alfie » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:30 pm

GarlicJam wrote:
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GarlicJam wrote:That DRS result points out a flaw in the system, I reckon. More than 3/4 of the ball was hitting the stumps and it went to umpire's call. Less than half the ball, fair enough, but this was (predicted to) smash the stumps.

Strange.


I've never really got the problem with this. The decision is weighted towards the onfield decision because the ball tracking is flawed and they don't want to overturn a correct decision, just a clearly wrong decision. Just because the graphic shows the ball hitting the stumps, it isn't necessarily what would have happened. Anything within a likely margin of error stays on the field.

There is a margin of error even if the ball is predicted to hit the base of middle stump. Sure, they need to allow for margin of error - and that is supposed to be 50% of the ball, this was 80% of the ball hitting the stump.

Maybe the margin of error was allowing for the fact that the ball may have passed between middle and leg stumps....


I was out and didn't see this one : but surely this is a case of an error displaying the graphic ? It is a margin of error of 50% of the ball hitting - and that is what is normally displayed (though it is only a pictorial representation of what is predicted to have happened ). Unlikely they would have got the actual ruling wrong...

Although after that decision in Adelaide...
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby alfie » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:34 pm

GarlicJam wrote:
from_the_stands wrote:Ok, so this match really sucked. Smith declared a session too soon; Voges deserved his triple, and the under fire Mitch Marsh could have scored some runs. My guess is that Australia will be Mitchless on Boxing Day when Khawaja comes back in.
I reckon 3 permutations have a better chance of happening than that - Aus selectors are very keen for MM to work. "An allrounder WILL be selected" is their mantra.

1. Uzzie won't be selected - unlikely
2. Shaun Marsh won't be selected - more likely
3. your boy, Joe Burns, won't be selected, and SMarsh opens. Maybe even more likely.

I will drink a beer if MMarsh is dropped. (far tastier than a hat)


I see comment about Khawaja having to "prove he is completely fit" before being selected for the Test . So I suspect Option 1 is not out of the question.
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby Aidan11 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:38 pm

This went pretty much as expected.


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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby dan08 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:19 am

Gayle said he wants to return to Test cricket once he's recovered from his back surgery.
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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby mikesiva » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:16 am

"Miguel Cummins has been added to the West Indies touring side for their final two Tests in Australia. Cummins, 25, replaces Shannon Gabriel who sustained an ankle injury during the first Test in Hobart which ruled him out for the rest of the series. Cummins' lone international appearance for the West Indies came in an ODI against Ireland in 2014, taking 1 for 42 in six overs, however he did play for a WICB Board XI versus the Australian tourists in Antigua earlier this year, claiming the wicket of Chris Rogers on the way to figures of 14-3-42-1. In 36 first-class matches, Cummins has taken 99 wickets at 22.83. In the current West Indies first-class domestic season, Cummins sits 11th on the wickets list but third among fast bowlers with 16 at 20.43 for Barbados."

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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby dan08 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:15 pm

Victoria play West Indies this weekend: http://www.cricket.com.au/news/west-ind ... ign=ausvwi

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Re: WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

Postby GarlicJam » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:45 pm

I see from Mike's post above that it is referred to as a Victoria XI, not Victoria.

Otherwise, it would be a real smack in the face to the Windies. Not that this isn't, anyway.
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