Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:42 pm

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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:47 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Why Trott! They'll be off soon.


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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby ianp1970 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:49 pm

Wanted to keep Marlon waiting for his ton?

No other reason not to bowl Root, is there?
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby yorker_129-7 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:52 pm

Pudding of a pitch, England wasted the new ball and were dug out of a hole by good middle-overs bowling from Jordan and Stokes.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby shankycricket » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:54 pm

I'd be seriously livid if England waste Stokes. Special player. Treated woefully vs India last summer (yes, I know they won 3 Tests).
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:55 pm

Well done to Marlon Samuels. If not for him, the game would have swung too far to England as a spectacle. Dug in well.

Moeen looking very much like a part timer. Under cooked. Maybe.

Seamers bowled well. Even Broad, even though pace is still a worry.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:04 pm

shankycricket wrote:I'd be seriously livid if England waste Stokes. Special player. Treated woefully vs India last summer (yes, I know they won 3 Tests).


He looks a pretty potent bowler. Still got a bit to do to prove he's a number six and Perth wasn't a freak. But I hope England stick with him through the bad days, which will come. He compares well with a 23 year old Flintoff.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby shankycricket » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:05 pm

No early start despite losing 20 overs? :?
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby shankycricket » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:06 pm

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shankycricket wrote:I'd be seriously livid if England waste Stokes. Special player. Treated woefully vs India last summer (yes, I know they won 3 Tests).


He looks a pretty potent bowler. Still got a bit to do to prove he's a number six and Perth wasn't a freak. But I hope England stick with him through the bad days, which will come. He compares well with a 23 year old Flintoff.

Has a better record at 6 than Moeen!
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby shankycricket » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:08 pm

WI pace attack looks awful without Jerome. Be amazed if Cook doesn't score big here.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:10 pm

I'd guess he's going to bat at six in this game and Moeen at seven. I don't suppose you can just pretend those innings at 8 (even 9 I think) didn't happen though.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:11 pm

shankycricket wrote:No early start despite losing 20 overs? :?


The commentators said 15m early, but that should be extended (in my opinion) as they went off 12m before the close.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:23 pm

shankycricket wrote:WI pace attack looks awful without Jerome. Be amazed if Cook doesn't score big here.


As that article you linked to suggested, he will do well against just ok attacks. Given his qualities (patience, determination, ambition) he should capitalise in helpful circumstances when his weakness (technique) isn't an issue. But if there is still swing around tomorrow, I expect him to struggle. If it's a good batting pitch, he could well score heavily. If he doesn't score runs in this series, I suspect he's on his way out.

Listening to George Dobell on cricinfo Switch Hit, who is often quite sensible, I was amazed he was able to say so emphatically that Cook looked over his problems in Antigua. I don't think we'll be able to say that until the year is out.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:25 pm

I also Dobell reacted a little too bullishly to Ballance's third innings ton.
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Re: Second Test: West Indies v England, April 21-25

Postby KipperJohn » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:28 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Well done to Marlon Samuels. If not for him, the game would have swung too far to England as a spectacle. Dug in well.

Moeen looking very much like a part timer. Under cooked. Maybe.

Seamers bowled well. Even Broad, even though pace is still a worry.


I lost count of the number of maidens bowled by our seamers without a shot being played. Apart from Anderson's beauty (after which he bowled to short) Stokes and Jordan were easily the better bowlers, Stokes pace and full length could have got him a few more wickets on another day.

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