1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

SL in Eng, Oz in SA

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:00 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:Root gets himself in
then gets himself out

Starting to become a very bad habit, doesn't have the killer instinct of a Steve Smith

Bit harsh to say the least.

Not really

Pretty 40s and 50s aren't good enough for a player of his class

Especially since the bowlers aren't getting him out he is getting himself out

Has to be more ruthless
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:00 pm

As I predicted earlier Cook, Root and Bairstow will have to score at least 250 between them.
budgetmeansbudget
 
Posts: 16722
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:47 pm
Location: Poole
Team(s) Supported: Hampshire CCC
AFC Bournemouth
Livingston FC
Havant & Waterlooville FC
Poole Town FC
Chicago Bears
Poole Pirates

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:01 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:So which player would be dropped now for stokes, Ballance or Vince.

Finn surely

6 bowlers would be unecessary
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:03 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:Root gets himself in
then gets himself out

Starting to become a very bad habit, doesn't have the killer instinct of a Steve Smith

Bit harsh to say the least.

Not really

Pretty 40s and 50s aren't good enough for a player of his class

Especially since the bowlers aren't getting him out he is getting himself out

Has to be more ruthless

It happens now and again in a career, he has earnt the right for us to not criticize him on the back of one or two poor dismissals.

Besides Steve Smith has had his moments too.
Last edited by budgetmeansbudget on Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
budgetmeansbudget
 
Posts: 16722
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:47 pm
Location: Poole
Team(s) Supported: Hampshire CCC
AFC Bournemouth
Livingston FC
Havant & Waterlooville FC
Poole Town FC
Chicago Bears
Poole Pirates

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:03 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:So which player would be dropped now for stokes, Ballance or Vince.

Finn surely

6 bowlers would be unecessary


Anderson would replace Finn, Stokes a batsman well that how it would probably end up happening unless Ali also gets dropped.

1 Cricket Major
2019 IPL Season.


Dr Cricket
 
Posts: 9403
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:46 am
Location: UK London
Team(s) Supported: India

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:05 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:Root gets himself in
then gets himself out

Starting to become a very bad habit, doesn't have the killer instinct of a Steve Smith

Bit harsh to say the least.

Not really

Pretty 40s and 50s aren't good enough for a player of his class

Especially since the bowlers aren't getting him out he is getting himself out

Has to be more ruthless

It happens now and again in a career, he has earnt the right for us to not criticize him on the back of one or two poor dismissals.

Besides Steve Smith has had his moments too.


no need to criticise him, but it would hurt root not to get more hundreds or to average more during his peak.

1 Cricket Major
2019 IPL Season.


Dr Cricket
 
Posts: 9403
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:46 am
Location: UK London
Team(s) Supported: India

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:05 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:So which player would be dropped now for stokes, Ballance or Vince.

Finn surely

6 bowlers would be unecessary


Anderson would replace Finn, Stokes a batsman well that how it would probably end up happening unless Ali also gets dropped.

Yep, unless scores some big runs in this game, Rashid has to come in.

For a side that is supposedly on the up, England have got plenty of issues in their eleven.
budgetmeansbudget
 
Posts: 16722
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:47 pm
Location: Poole
Team(s) Supported: Hampshire CCC
AFC Bournemouth
Livingston FC
Havant & Waterlooville FC
Poole Town FC
Chicago Bears
Poole Pirates

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:07 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:So which player would be dropped now for stokes, Ballance or Vince.

Finn surely

6 bowlers would be unecessary


Anderson would replace Finn, Stokes a batsman well that how it would probably end up happening unless Ali also gets dropped.

Ali was batting 8 before stokes got injured he will move back and stokes will slot in for ball and bat 6 or 7

That's the team they picked before he got injured

Stokes isn't a batsmen he is an all rounder

Will likely be

Cook
hales
root
Vince
ballance
bairstow
stokes
moeen
woakes
broad
jimmy

5 bowlers plus lots of batting

Personally I would pick rashid for mooen but I can't see them doing that atm
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:09 pm

Yes, Stokes will replace a bowler. England replaced him with Woakes, who will now effectively replace Finn, with Stokes taking back Woakes' slot. JB and Mo will slip back down a place and the balance will revert back to what it was. Four bowlers and a spinner.
I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 89641
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire.

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:10 pm

Yeah england do have lots of issues in the eleven, but lets not forget england don't exactly have good fair cricketing reports, even Sky don't really criticise or question England cricket team too much either.

1 Cricket Major
2019 IPL Season.


Dr Cricket
 
Posts: 9403
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:46 am
Location: UK London
Team(s) Supported: India

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:14 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Yeah england do have lots of issues in the eleven, but lets not forget england don't exactly have good fair cricketing reports, even Sky don't really criticise or question England cricket team too much either.

Yes they do

Have you ever seen the verdict? It's just that we are winning at the moment

At least we aren't like India whose commentators are contractually hamstrung by the bcci and cant say anything
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:14 pm

I had posted that Ballance might be back just for one game until Stokes got fit, I now see I was a bit muddled. In theory, he's back in and might well get the series, unless clearly technically malfunctioning I guess.
I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 89641
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire.

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:16 pm

Ah yes that would be the team, no idea why I always thought one of the batsman would get dropped since the squad announcement.
Anyway guessing one of vince or ballance or both getting dropped soon anyway.
loads of question marks in that team for a team that is supposedly the best in Test cricket lol.

1 Cricket Major
2019 IPL Season.


Dr Cricket
 
Posts: 9403
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:46 am
Location: UK London
Team(s) Supported: India

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:16 pm

The English media loves nothing more than laying into its sports teams but you can't do that if they are winning
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:18 pm

I think I agree with Bhaves. Boycott and Willis are just a little colour. The broadcast media, and overwhelmingly the press have now been encouraged to see themselves as part of the product.
I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 89641
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire.

PreviousNext

Return to Live Cricket Matches

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests