2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:11 pm

backfootpunch wrote:Despite what everyone seems to think Morgan averages almost 45 as captain, far better than his career average

Shows how good england bench is in the batting department.

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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:14 pm

backfootpunch wrote:Despite what everyone seems to think Morgan averages almost 45 as captain, far better than his career average


surprised at that as he didn't have a great year last year and that is one of only two years he has been full-time captain, even 2015 he didn't average 45 in the calendar year so must have a few good innings in the odd games he played as captain before taking over full-time
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:16 pm

need around 12 an over from here

its doable but basically has to be these two that does it
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:16 pm

Terrible over from jadhav goes unpunished


Looking very tough after that

Huge over needed
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:18 pm

England making a good fist of the chase but Stokes is looking like someone who's a passenger in ODI cricket. Wonderful fielder but a 28 batting average and 41 wickets in 48 games at 37 av and 37 S/R is rather modest. Woakes who's in primarily for his bowling has a 23 batting average.
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:19 pm

thats a terrible drop

was in the air a long time but the fielder had loads of time to set himself
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:19 pm

Jadeja drops a catch, not the greatest catcher in the world.
brilliant outfielder but does need to learn how to catch though.

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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:21 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:England making a good fist of the chase but Stokes is looking like someone who's a passenger in ODI cricket. Wonderful fielder but a 28 batting average and 41 wickets in 48 games at 37 av and 37 S/R is rather modest. Woakes who's in primarily for his bowling has a 23 batting average.


and when swann, north and vaughan picked their world XIs for ODI cricket on BT sport during the coverage of the australia-pakistan tests all three put him in their team

amazes me that people can be so blinded by his potential that they overlook his performance
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:22 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:England making a good fist of the chase but Stokes is looking like someone who's a passenger in ODI cricket. Wonderful fielder but a 28 batting average and 41 wickets in 48 games at 37 av and 37 S/R is rather modest. Woakes who's in primarily for his bowling has a 23 batting average.

Completely disagree

Stokes had an excellent 2016 with the bat in ODIs averaging just under 50

He also made 62 off 40 in the first game
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:27 pm

even if we dont win moeen and morgan keeping the wolves away with this partnership
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:28 pm

TBH isn't that the reason why Sussex hates Stokes.
Stokes isn't a bad cricketer but he does need to start performing consistently at the moment he that all rounder that isn't really sure what he is IE a bowler or batsman.

some of the indian commentators picked that up in the test series that england all round players didn't really know what they were doing in the team and they were basically picked on their secondary skills and not primary skills.

Reckon stokes would be much better when he find what he actually good at IE batting or bowling at the moment he not doing either.
the only series he actually had a good all round series was in Bangladesh.

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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:30 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:England making a good fist of the chase but Stokes is looking like someone who's a passenger in ODI cricket. Wonderful fielder but a 28 batting average and 41 wickets in 48 games at 37 av and 37 S/R is rather modest. Woakes who's in primarily for his bowling has a 23 batting average.

Completely disagree

Stokes had an excellent 2016 with the bat in ODIs averaging just under 50

He also made 62 off 40 in the first game


Yep had a very good 2016 with the bat.
people are still judging him before 2016.
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:31 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:England making a good fist of the chase but Stokes is looking like someone who's a passenger in ODI cricket. Wonderful fielder but a 28 batting average and 41 wickets in 48 games at 37 av and 37 S/R is rather modest. Woakes who's in primarily for his bowling has a 23 batting average.

Completely disagree

Stokes had an excellent 2016 with the bat in ODIs averaging just under 50

He also made 62 off 40 in the first game


So he's had a few good games out of the 48 he's played so did Bopara and others.
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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:32 pm

probably the game for india that.
england would have won this if they were chasing 350 odd considering it looks like heavy due at the ground.

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Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:33 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:TBH isn't that the reason why Sussex hates Stokes.
Stokes isn't a bad cricketer but he does need to start performing consistently at the moment he that all rounder that isn't really sure what he is IE a bowler or batsman.

some of the indian commentators picked that up in the test series that england all round players didn't really know what they were doing in the team and they were basically picked on their secondary skills and not primary skills.

Reckon stokes would be much better when he find what he actually good at IE batting or bowling at the moment he not doing either.
the only series he actually had a good all round series was in Bangladesh.

A hundred and 4 50s in 12 innings is a pretty consistent year for number 5-6 in ODI cricket really

His bowling hasn't been great though
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