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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:21 pm

mikesiva wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:What happened there Mike?

It would be interesting to hear from Adi and Dilbert on this...none of the SL bowlers needed to dry the ball with their towels before bowling at the West Indies. I wonder if that will be the same this evening....

Shakib gone for 33...Bangladesh just can't find a batsman to convert a start into a 50.


Due is totally random.
Even Mumbai in this tournament hasn't had due everyday.
They really shouldn't be due during this time of the year unless it is very humid outside.

But saying that teams need to be prepared for slight condition changes during the night IE Batting gets easier, less spin and often more pace in the wicket.

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:39 pm

I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby The Professor » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:39 pm

It just isn't due.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby The Professor » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:40 pm

I think this Warner flexibility scheme (which sounds like something from the Financial Times) needs to tie a death. He should open with Finch and Khawaja drop to three.
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Postby The Professor » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:42 pm

365notout wrote:I think this Warner flexibility scheme (which sounds like something from the Financial Times) needs to die a death. He should open with Finch and Khawaja drop to three.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby GarlicJam » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:44 pm

backfootpunch wrote:I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament

It's bound to bring Australia undone.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:46 pm

except that Khawaja is doing very well opening. Warner should be opening with him, not Twatto
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby GarlicJam » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:49 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:except that Khawaja is doing very well opening. Warner should be opening with him, not Twatto

Smith out, Twatto captain*, Finch and Uzzie to open, the Warner then Twatto.





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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:54 pm

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Durhamfootman wrote:except that Khawaja is doing very well opening. Warner should be opening with him, not Twatto

Smith out, Twatto captain*, Finch and Uzzie to open, the Warner then Twatto.

I could live with that
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Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:55 pm

not that I have to, of course

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby alfie » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:21 am

Durhamfootman wrote:except that Khawaja is doing very well opening. Warner should be opening with him, not Twatto


Well that makes sense . Do they really need Watson and M Marsh ? I mean , seven bowlers ? Reckon they could bench Marsh and add Finch at the top without really hurting the team balance.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby dan08 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:12 am

alfie wrote:
Durhamfootman wrote:except that Khawaja is doing very well opening. Warner should be opening with him, not Twatto


Well that makes sense . Do they really need Watson and M Marsh ? I mean , seven bowlers ? Reckon they could bench Marsh and add Finch at the top without really hurting the team balance.

I have never understood the point of Mitch Marsh. Has he ever won Australia a game before?
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:20 am

Yep. Two in a row, I think. In the one dayers this summer.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:02 am

backfootpunch wrote:I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament


Sample size is too small to make this judgement yet considering the first game was played at nagpur which is always been slow and turning and the 2nd game which was affected by rain.

Also this is the first tournament played in vast extreme pitches.
You get the good pacy, small good batting wicket Mumbai, Banglore and should be Dharamasala and then the slow turners, tough to bat on Kolkata, Delhi and Nagpur.
With Mohali being in the middle.

But saying that if Banglore and Mohali start being slow and taking turn then yes the pitches have been doctored.
Banglore never really turned a huge amount and the wicket has always been great for batting and had good pace for the batsman to time the ball.
Mohali been slow lately since they haven't relaid the pitch for 20 years but even then the pitch doesn't really turn unless it has been doctored.

Anyway India is a huge country with varied wickets and with the tournament being played at 6 grounds at grounds at the north, east, south and west and middle of the country no surprise conditions vary between grounds.

So far the only pitch that has surprised me has been Dharamasala.

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:00 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament


Sample size is too small to make this judgement yet considering the first game was played at nagpur which is always been slow and turning and the 2nd game which was affected by rain.

Also this is the first tournament played in vast extreme pitches.
You get the good pacy, small good batting wicket Mumbai, Banglore and should be Dharamasala and then the slow turners, tough to bat on Kolkata, Delhi and Nagpur.
With Mohali being in the middle.

But saying that if Banglore and Mohali start being slow and taking turn then yes the pitches have been doctored.
Banglore never really turned a huge amount and the wicket has always been great for batting and had good pace for the batsman to time the ball.
Mohali been slow lately since they haven't relaid the pitch for 20 years but even then the pitch doesn't really turn unless it has been doctored.

Anyway India is a huge country with varied wickets and with the tournament being played at 6 grounds at grounds at the north, east, south and west and middle of the country no surprise conditions vary between grounds.

So far the only pitch that has surprised me has been Dharamasala.


surely it cant be coincidence that the only two pitches in the tournament that have turned square have been in games featuring india, the rest of the games the ball hasnt really turned that much then it has ragged square in those two games

im surprised they even tried it again after it backfired on them against new zealand
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