First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

[rich1uk]

This batting line up really isn't very good

SA have still not replaced Smith and Kallis really and then to be without du Plessis and de Villiers just exposes that even more

[sussexpob]

Can't see JPD as a number 4 bat.

He had potential, not good enough sadly.

[sussexpob]

Why on earth does de kock bat so low

[Arthur Crabtree]

dont think SA have the sort of quality at 5/6/7 we do to be able to recover from that

Not like in the days of McMllan and Klusener and Richardson, Boje and Pollock!

QDK isn't bad. Averages 59 at seven.

[rich1uk]

dont think SA have the sort of quality at 5/6/7 we do to be able to recover from that

Not like in the days of McMllan and Klusener and Richardson, Boje and Pollock!

QDK isn't bad.

de Kock is dangerous and has good stats to back him up in tests, was meaning as a unit tho

[Arthur Crabtree]

Thirty overs to bowl in 90m. A lot bowled by the spinners too.

[Arthur Crabtree]

dont think SA have the sort of quality at 5/6/7 we do to be able to recover from that

Not like in the days of McMllan and Klusener and Richardson, Boje and Pollock!

QDK isn't bad.

de Kock is dangerous and has good stats to back him up in tests, was meaning as a unit tho

England were 76-4. But no, SA less likely to recover.

[sussexpob]

What south Africa need is another of fafs epic 13% sr fifth day efforts...

Oh wait

[rich1uk]

dont think SA have the sort of quality at 5/6/7 we do to be able to recover from that

Not like in the days of McMllan and Klusener and Richardson, Boje and Pollock!

QDK isn't bad.

de Kock is dangerous and has good stats to back him up in tests, was meaning as a unit tho

England were 76-4. But no, SA less likely to recover.

and in my very first post in this exchange i pointed out that at 104-4 SA are in a better position than we were but dont have the same quality at 5/6/7 as a unit ...

[meninblue]

Excellent performance by Broad. 50 and 2 wickets and its just day 1.

[sussexpob]

Excellent performance by Broad. 50 and 2 wickets and its just day 1.

Is it?

[alfie]

Excellent spell from Broad ...having a terrific day. Runs and wickets ; and giving nothing away.

Moeen too. Made a fine combination

SA have de Kock to come , of course ; and Philander can handle a bat. But England will fancy a significant lead from here. I know Lord's tends to die ; but with so many balls keeping low already you'd think batting last will be no picnic.

[rich1uk]

groundsman had said before the game its one of the driest Lord's test pitches for a long time and he epxected it to turn late in the match

really wishing we had Rashid in this team now

[meninblue]

Think England will get a good lead.

[meninblue]

Excellent spell from Broad ...having a terrific day. Runs and wickets ; and giving nothing away.

Moeen too. Made a fine combination

SA have de Kock to come , of course ; and Philander can handle a bat. But England will fancy a significant lead from here. I know Lord's tends to die ; but with so many balls keeping low already you'd think batting last will be no picnic.

1.54 runs for a pace bowler is fantastic eco rate.