2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:19 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:Imagine the comparisons if Stokes belts a 149 to help us complete an historic victory.


Latest odds I've seen for us are 100/1. Worth a punt?
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:20 pm

Aidan11 wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:Imagine the comparisons if Stokes belts a 149 to help us complete an historic victory.


Latest odds I've seen for us are 100/1. Worth a punt?


Could be worth losing a fiver over.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:32 pm

What's to be done about Bell, he's been out of form for a while?

Not much out there in the counties right now to fill in at 3 or 4, so I guess nothing.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby yuppie » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:34 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:What's to be done about Bell, he's been out of form for a while?

Not much out there in the counties right now to fill in at 3 or 4, so I guess nothing.



I think with bringing in Wood and Lyth, England won't want to make to many more changes.

Perhaps Alis position as the spinner is more in question at present?
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:34 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:What's to be done about Bell, he's been out of form for a while?

Not much out there in the counties right now to fill in at 3 or 4, so I guess nothing.


His experience, plus the form of Ballance, keeps him in for a few more tests.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:38 pm

Cook closing in on 9000 test runs.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby yuppie » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:40 pm

So hard to believe no Englishman has got there before. Considering that England play a lot of tests.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:41 pm

He's about to enter the nervous 8990's.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:42 pm

yuppie wrote:So hard to believe no Englishman has got there before. Considering that England play a lot of tests.


We haven't had many great players over the last 20 years, bar KP, and Cook. I'm confident Root will break 9000 at some stage.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby yuppie » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:46 pm

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yuppie wrote:So hard to believe no Englishman has got there before. Considering that England play a lot of tests.


We haven't had many great players over the last 20 years, bar KP, and Cook. I'm confident Root will break 9000 at some stage.



Root looks good to get over 10,000. Certainly got a lot of runs already and is only 24.

If Cook keeps getting runs though, and does stay around after he goes as captain, then he may well get close to Tendulkars record. Lots of ifs and buts with that though.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:49 pm

Bookies getting a bit nervous.

The win has come back in to 66/1.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby ddb » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:50 pm

A few years ago you could have said that. Now I don't think he's got any chance of getting near it.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:53 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:
yuppie wrote:So hard to believe no Englishman has got there before. Considering that England play a lot of tests.


We haven't had many great players over the last 20 years, bar KP, and Cook. I'm confident Root will break 9000 at some stage.

And we haven't had players playing as many tests as the likes of Tendulkar, Ponting, Kallis etc.....
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby yuppie » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:55 pm

ddb wrote:A few years ago you could have said that. Now I don't think he's got any chance of getting near it.



Probably not, he will need another sustained golden patch.

Still only 30. Has played for 9 years, and if he plays for another 9 years then it is possible. Would mean he will play over 200 tests, and he no longer has the distraction of one day cricket......

So many factors to consider though. But English openers seem to play for a long time.
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Re: 2nd Test - England v New Zealand (May 29 - June 2)

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:58 pm

There goes Stokes. :horse
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