First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby bigfluffylemon » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:01 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:SA have problems in this game, but they have just won in Australia and had a strong winter, compared with a very bad winter for England. Obviously, it's far too early to be drawing premature conclusions....


True, but they've had a pretty poor summer in England so far, and with Rabada getting suspended, the disruption will continue. But in situations like this, teams either band together and produce something special, or get thumped. I guess we'll see which it is. South Africa have previous for the former. England tend towards the latter, particularly when touring.
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:03 am

Didn't see the last ten overs or so but I thought Bavuma had played pretty well and not surprised de Bruyn was the one to fall late - a most welcome wicket for England ; and probably important as it means they can hope to get at de Kock early on day three (unless the night watchman plays a spoiling hand ) New ball available within the hour should give them a fair chance of getting among the tail and securing a decent lead.
As BFL points out , SA still have some batting , so England will need to be fully switched on from the start and not allow them to execute a similar escape to their own sixth wicket stand...de Kock and Bavuma surely have the capacity to emulate Root and Moeen ; though one difference is they will be coming together against rested bowlers rather than a group who have already been toiling for several hours of the day...

Thought Broad was truly excellent yesterday . Must admit I'd been a little concerned going in as he'd not been tearing down trees for Notts , and I wondered how fit he was - concerns answered emphatically ! Two miserly spells each with a wicket included and he always looked capable of doing further damage despite not getting a lot of help from the conditions - which seemed generally fairly easy for batting later in the day (as you'd expect on day two at Lord's).
Moeen got the really big wicket of the day - two really , as Elgar had been typically stubborn - and the way he got Amla suggested there might be a good deal of danger from spin as this match progresses. Might have to come mainly from him as Dawson has so far been disappointing. Maybe the skipper will turn his arm over at some stage...

Two days , fifteen wickets...given Lord's pitch can get very bland as it ages this match is not guaranteed to bring a result ; but England will be hopeful some early success on Saturday can put them in a very strong position. Certainly they're in a better place than the visitors at the moment due largely to their overall superior rate of scoring. Weather still set fair ?

Hope the umpires keep the game moving just to kill off the string of complaints about overrates clogging up this thread :)
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:47 am

bigfluffylemon wrote: We'll see if two spinners turns out to be a winning tactic after all.


At least arguably England haven't selected two spinners. Or they've selected three. Here is a list of England spinners since Swann, with caps:

Ansari 3
Dawson 2
Moeen 38
Samit 1
Borthwick 1

Batty 2
Rashid 10
Tredwell 1
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:34 am

Took a while to get Moeen on today ...and he nearly had one with his first ball ! Bit surprised he didn't open at one end.

England will be a little disappointed not to have even shifted the night watchman in eight overs. Pitch should remain good for batting today so they will really need to make the new ball count.
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby mikesiva » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:39 am

Bavuma gets his half century!
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:43 am

Dawson gets the break ! Good catch by YJB :clap

Do agree with Nass that Root erred this morning by deferring his spinners so long...but it may pay off : de Kock now arriving moments ahead of the new ball...
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:50 am

And now Moeen ends Bavuma's fine effort...Stokes holds the catch after it glances off Bairstow's leg : three for Moeen :salute
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby KipperJohn » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:57 am

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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby mikesiva » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:01 pm

mikesiva wrote:Bavuma gets his half century!
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby meninblue » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:08 pm

Was anticipating at least 100 run lead, but England may get a higher lead than that.
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:31 pm

This partnership and this new ball may decide that...

Anderson started well with this one but no break yet. Big half hour leading up to lunch.
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:41 pm

De Kock not messing about...anything loose it goes.

You'd think he's giving you a chance but he's seen them to a quick fifty stand :clap

Broad not quite on yesterday's form so far...conceding quite a few boundaries . England will want to put an end to this soonish...
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:47 pm

Philander certainly not happy after that blow to his right hand . Soldiering on well though.

Moeen back ...and de Kock is after him immediately...

This might be interesting.

Fast fifty for de Kock with two boundaries in the over :clap
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby alfie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:53 pm

And Jimmy gets de Kock as soon as he gets up his end ! Great catch by Stokes :clap

Big moment . Anderson has bowled beautifully with this second new ball...England back on top.
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Re: First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:01 pm

Looks a good morning for England with three wickets. And then ease into a nice long bat this afternoon.
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