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Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:26 pm
by Durhamfootman
Australia scoring freely atm, by the looks of it

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:28 pm
by backfootpunch
Awful review

Never looked remotely close to being out

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:32 pm
by backfootpunch
Stokes and overton going for far too many runs

2 bad balls every over

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:34 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Durhamfootman wrote:Smith's 8th consecutive ashes 50, seemingly


Not even Bradman did that.

And he didn't have to face Craig Overton.

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:03 pm
by Durhamfootman
he might have averaged 100 if he had

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:15 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Only 44 overs, but good progress for the Aussies.

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:24 pm
by yuppie
That is some brilliant banter :bow:

Australia seem to only have 1 batsman that can make a big score.

Expect Head to get another 30 -70 and like Manus not being able to build on it.

These are handy runs, but Australia needs more than just one batsman to be able to go on with it.

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:31 pm
by yuppie
Where does Smiths form rate against other Australias recent greats.

Clarke from the end of 2011 into the start of 2013 where his talent finally showed itself before his back went?

Ponting from about 2002 to 2006. Probably the most dominant batting from a number 1 in recent times.

Maybe Hayden from 2001 to 03 at the height of the great Australian team?

Where does Smiths present form put him? Is he the best of this lot, better than Ponting? In a test series where the ball is dominating, today his innings was played with 95% control.

Does he stand out because no one else can bat? Or is the form of the last 5 years the best that their has been from an Australian in test cricket since possibly the Don?

Is Smith like Lara? A great surrounded by mediocrity?

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:47 pm
by GGAS
If Smith is like Lara, is Root like... Ramnaresh Sarwan?

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:23 pm
by yuppie
Maybe more Jimmy adams, great start to his career but then....

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:34 pm
by Gingerfinch
Punter averaged around 70 over that 4-5 year period, which is what Smith is averaging from around 2014 time. Punter was more dominating than Smith but played in a better team, obviously.

Hussey had a purple patch from memory. Not sure how long it lasted though?

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:40 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Statswise Smith's average overall is second only to the Don.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting

So it's a question of evaluating other factors like quality of bowling/pitches/teammates and maybe where he played his games. Also ice dancing type factors like style and personality which are subjective.

Smith will tail off at some point. So we don't know where he'll end up. Maybe behind Adam Voges.

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:36 pm
by GarlicJam
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Only 44 overs, but good progress for the Aussies.

When I woke and looked at the score, my first thought was that it was probably a good thing for England, the truncated day's play.

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:17 pm
by Durhamfootman
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Statswise Smith's average overall is second only to the Don.


Smith will tail off at some point. So we don't know where he'll end up. Maybe behind Adam Voges.

I think at one point Mike Hussey found himself in this position, so wherever Mike Hussey is now, Smith will probably end up being higher

where will Roy end up?

Re: Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:20 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Batting at 11?