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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby sussexpob » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:50 pm

The Waugh Twins wrote:If the umpires were stupid enough to tell Morgan that they thought the third umpire got it wrong then they probably didn't even know what Australia was appealing for.

Just found this article;

The on field umpires during the Stokes incident had original thought Australia were accusing Stokes of ball tampering.



Well, three ODI's ago the umpires didnt know the dead ball rule when Australia run out James Anderson, so its not suprising that they would mess up again.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:50 pm

https://youtu.be/bMOUxEw4g-s

Steve handling the ball.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby sussexpob » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:53 pm

The Waugh Twins wrote:https://youtu.be/bMOUxEw4g-s

Steve handling the ball.


Less debatable that one
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:58 pm

This from Waugh on the matter;

Waugh though refused to admit that his bizarre mode of dismissal took the match away from them. Speaking to The Daily Examiner, a leading Australian newspaper, Waugh said, “When survival beckons, instincts seem to take over before the brain has time to engage. Next time I will still help the short-leg out, but I will use my boot.”
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby The Waugh Twins » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:59 pm

sussexpob wrote:
The Waugh Twins wrote:https://youtu.be/bMOUxEw4g-s

Steve handling the ball.


Less debatable that one


For sure.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby sussexpob » Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:10 pm

The Waugh Twins wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
The Waugh Twins wrote:https://youtu.be/bMOUxEw4g-s

Steve handling the ball.


Less debatable that one


For sure.



Might seem a strange train of thought, but one thing I do notice watching this again is that, once the bowler and fielding team appeal for the lbw, is it fair to put off the batsman while the ball is still live? Would a dead ball result from an appeal in that instance?
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:52 pm

I didn't realise umpires could give a soft signal to the third umpire.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:24 pm

It's ok for the third ump to overturn a soft signal if he's sure. The umpire gave a decision that is very arguably correct. So that's fine, he had to make a decision. But as has been said, he may have been remiss in watching it solely, or at all, in slo-mo. It happened today with a catch dropped in the action of throwing it in the air in the Yorks/Gloucs semi. The umpire watched only in slo-mo, to see if the catcher had control of the ball before spilling it, as if that is the true reality. It may enhance reality in a stumping, but it blurs reality in some decisions. I thought the third ump today might have reflected on yesterday, and at least asked to see the action once, or totally, at real speed. But he just watched slo-mo.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Gingerfinch » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:27 pm

Bairstow's replacing the out of form Buttler for the last three matches.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:33 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:Bairstow's replacing the out of form Buttler for the last three matches.


AC will suffer in the FL's then.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Gingerfinch » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:36 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:Bairstow's replacing the out of form Buttler for the last three matches.


AC will suffer in the FL's then.


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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:46 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:Bairstow's replacing the out of form Buttler for the last three matches.


AC will suffer in the FL's then.

don't worry.... Luke Wright will hit the first 500 not out since Lara, to compensate
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:44 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:Bairstow's replacing the out of form Buttler for the last three matches.


Would have made sense for him to play in our game against Surrey to get some time in the middle at a lower level. Sadly the ECBs responce to any loss of form seems to be taking the player out of the game and making them hit balls in the nets.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:14 pm

I suppose it depends if he's exhausted or just out of form.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:14 pm

Yes, Bairstow being called up has finished me off.
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