1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:07 pm

Three tests left so we can still turn it around.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:08 pm

Yes, well done Pakistan, going 1-0 up on a foreign field. Excellent match. Well deserved win.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby braveneutral » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:08 pm

Well done Pakistan but you feel that a few need to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:09 pm

5 of the last 6 wickets were clean bowled.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:13 pm

Changes for next Test?

Seem certain Stokes and Anderson will be back so one of Ballance / Vince drops out and one of Finn / Ball.

Other than that, there has to be a question over Ali's place, unlikely anything will come of it though.

Good win for Pakistan, but can't help but feel that England's muddled thinking at the start of the innings threw away a game we should have won.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:15 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Changes for next Test?

Seem certain Stokes and Anderson will be back so one of Ballance / Vince drops out and one of Finn / Ball.

Other than that, there has to be a question over Ali's place, unlikely anything will come of it though.

Good win for Pakistan, but can't help but feel that England's muddled thinking at the start of the innings threw away a game we should have won.


I can't see them dropping Ali but they really, really should.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:15 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Changes for next Test?

Seem certain Stokes and Anderson will be back so one of Ballance / Vince drops out and one of Finn / Ball.

Other than that, there has to be a question over Ali's place, unlikely anything will come of it though.

Good win for Pakistan, but can't help but feel that England's muddled thinking at the start of the innings threw away a game we should have won.


Not sure a batsman will be dropped for Stokes.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:17 pm

Stokes will play at 6 and there's no way the keeper will be number 5.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:28 pm

Cook/Hales/Root/Hildreth/Ballance/Stokes/Bairstow/Woakes/Broad/?Rayner/Anderson
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:30 pm

In reality, Anderson and Stokes will replace Finn and Ball.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:35 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cook/Hales/Root/Hildreth/Ballance/Stokes/Bairstow/Woakes/Broad/?Rayner/Anderson


Cook/Hales/ Root/Vince Ballance/Stokes/ Bairstow/ Ansari/Woakes/Broad/Anderson.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:38 pm

Yasir MOM, it would have been Woakes if our batsmen had batted better. The spoils always go to the victor.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:42 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cook/Hales/Root/Hildreth/Ballance/Stokes/Bairstow/Woakes/Broad/?Rayner/Anderson


Cook/Hales/ Root/Vince Ballance/Stokes/ Bairstow/ Ansari/Woakes/Broad/Anderson.


Woakes needs to go up the order, or at least not down. Having a batting spinner seems to be a bit counterproductive.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby KipperJohn » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:44 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Yes, well done Pakistan, going 1-0 up on a foreign field. Excellent match. Well deserved win.


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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:45 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cook/Hales/Root/Hildreth/Ballance/Stokes/Bairstow/Woakes/Broad/?Rayner/Anderson


Cook/Hales/ Root/Vince Ballance/Stokes/ Bairstow/ Ansari/Woakes/Broad/Anderson.


Woakes needs to go up the order, or at least not down. Having a batting spinner seems to be a bit counterproductive.


Unless you're going to pick Finn or Ball ahead of Stokes.
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