1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:15 am

bhaveshgor wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:Probably easier to list those whose positions are secure.

Cook
Root
Bairstow
Woakes
Broad

Anderson as well.

I meant from the eleven who played in the first test.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:19 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Pakistan have certainly torn up the script.


A few England players (Anderson, I recall) were telling the Pakistanis in UAE it'd be a different story when they came to UK.


Reading a bit of pakpassion and watching some of the pakistani news media channels, pakistan feel like they have already won the bragging rights since what ever happens Pakistan would be ahead of england since they won an away test match in england and England haven't won in the UAE/Pakistan since 2001.

For many drawing the series or losing a close Series would be a win for them and for this side.

Don't think pakistan would get a greater chance to win a series in england since 1996 especially with the schedule changing after 2020 and their being no guarantee Pakistan would tour england often after that date.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:31 am

3-0 win makes Pakistan top ranked in Tests.

Looks like India will drop a few points at the end of this summer, so England could lose and still go above India into third.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:38 am

Without looking up the records for the last 40 years, Pakistan have always seemed a bit of a bogey team for us since I've been watching cricket. Can't remember too many series wins.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:41 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:3-0 win makes Pakistan top ranked in Tests.

Looks like India will drop a few points at the end of this summer, so England could lose and still go above India into third.


Why will india lose points at end of summer? the update already happen in may india won't lose points unless you think WI will get something out of the india series.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:47 am

At the end of the English summer, some results fall off the end of the time frame. If you try the predictor on the ICC site, India lose 8 points at the end of this England v Pakistan series, before you factor in their series v WI.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:51 am

Seems like England can not be number 2 now in the rankings well they can be but india has to lose the series to WI.
Pakistan can be Number 2 if it wins the series 2-0 or better.
2-1 could be enough but it depends on india losing or drawing the test series.

Just checked if Pakistan win the series 1-0 and india draws the series, India will be number 4 in the rankings.
if india win the series they are guaranteed 3rd place and winning 3-0 or better being enough to guarantee 2nd place for india.

TBH just like I said yesterday to some aussie women at the cricket really no stand out team at test cricket 4-5 teams closely matched together.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:53 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:At the end of the English summer, some results fall off the end of the time frame. If you try the predictor on the ICC site, India lose 8 points at the end of this England v Pakistan series, before you factor in their series v WI.

Shouldn't happen since the update happen at may.
Must be a bug with the site Arthur.
http://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2016/me ... ual-update

the next time results would be lost would be next may.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:55 am

Ah ok now I know what the issue is Arthur basically you have to finish all the predictions before you check the rankings, since it assumed all the other series is an 0-0 and not being played yet so Australia, India all lost points if you only entered england test results.

when I was playing it Sri lanka gained and Australia loss points.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:10 pm

Selvey gone from the guardian and he is livid on Twitter.

lol he a crap writer, should have happened sooner.

Actually quite embarrassing that he thinks because he written for 50 years he has a divine right to still be working, especially after being so crap for 3-5 yrs.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:06 pm

Ding dong the *modded* has gone....

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:32 pm

He was in Cricket Writers on TV yesterday.


Surprised he didn't mention it, unless he only just found out today.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:33 pm

These days he looks like a baddie from Star Trek.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:36 pm

Yasir Shah has knocked Anderson off the top of the ICC bowling rankings.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby dan08 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:38 pm

I'm guessing Borthwick is next in line as number 3/4 batsman but I'm surprised no one ever talks about Sam Northeast.
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