2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

[alfie]

Key idea sounds good actually one review per team and umpire call reviews are given back.

disagree.

the point of DRS is to overturn the howler. Anything that isn't a howler, the reviewing team shouldn't be reviewing for... that's just trying to use the system to try and sneak out some sort of advantage for themselves

how many times do we hear commentators question whether a team would have reviewed if it wasn't the captain/talisman/in form chap? or say that a batsman might as well review it because he's the last hope for a team or whatever spurious reason that they can think of?

If the review is not taken because a team feels the umpire has made a clear and obvious mistake, then they are just using the system to 'take a punt' and deserve to lose the review however close the result was to being out/in/whatever.

the guiding question for lodging an appeal should be "has the umpire made an obvious error?".... nothing else.... if he hasn't then we can just get with the game and stop faffing about

too much faffing about these days

Spot on , footman

[Dr Cricket]

people are in cuckoo land or in massive denial if they honestly think England would be winning this game if they won the toss.

[Dr Cricket]

Lol can't believe some england fans are still blaming the toss and Pitch when the games reaching day 5 lol.

You aren't seriously suggesting the toss didn't have a significant effect on this game , surely ? That if England had batted first they would still be in this struggle to play out five sessions for a draw ?

I am not complaining about it , by the way - the luck of the toss is part of the game. And India took full advantage of it by playing enterprising cricket on day one...they will deserve their win.

But please don't try to tell me the toss wasn't a big factor in this match !

If england batted first, can hardly see england getting 350, india likely to get around 400 or more batting first and then a good game where india still likely to win.
Not a win the toss win the game that so many pathetic sad english fans are saying.

Toss is an advantage yes but not so massive that so many sad people are saying india won the game when the toss happened and it is pointless they are playing cricket after that.
so bloody annoying india won the toss would have been so mint watching india winning a test while losing the toss.

Hopefully mohali, Chennai and mumbai the toss goes England way.
IF I was in charge of BCCI or captain of india would scrap the toss or just give the toss to england every game, just so the stupid english people can just shut up and pipe down a bit.
if the toss was so important wonder why England haven't won many games in india or why india are so dominant at home.

[alfie]

Toss got an advantage yes but not the massive reason why england loss the game.
India would still win games if they loss a toss in this pitch which is a fact considering india won 4 games against Australia losing the toss and england even won 2 test in 2012 losing the toss.

Not a fact ...an assertion. One can of course never know what "would have happened if". ...But it is only a few days since India lost a toss on a a pitch that did not offer the bowlers as much as this one even as it progressed : and they ended up batting to save the game over the last hour or so...

Certainly India have a good record in these conditions : why not ? It is called home ground advantage. But I don't think they are unassailable .

Three more games to come anyway . We shall see...

[Aidan11]

Unlucky to lose Cook right at the end there.

90 overs to survive. Can't see it happening.

[Aidan11]

Don't suppose there's any chance of heavy rain at the ground tomorrow.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Excellent from Cook and Haseeb. Very impressed. Given the situation, England's best outcome was to lose well, and that's happening so far. Shown some ticker and nous.

Well done to India too for the late wickets.

[Dr Cricket]

Toss got an advantage yes but not the massive reason why england loss the game.
India would still win games if they loss a toss in this pitch which is a fact considering india won 4 games against Australia losing the toss and england even won 2 test in 2012 losing the toss.

Not a fact ...an assertion. One can of course never know what "would have happened if". ...But it is only a few days since India lost a toss on a a pitch that did not offer the bowlers as much as this one even as it progressed : and they ended up batting to save the game over the last hour or so...

Certainly India have a good record in these conditions : why not ? It is called home ground advantage. But I don't think they are unassailable .

Three more games to come anyway . We shall see...

Think only drawing 2 games since 2013 says they are or not actually losing many games since 2005 says they are.
Anyway like you say we shall see but suspect I will be right that the toss makes no difference to india.
I be so pissed if india win 4 toss in a row.

[Dr Cricket]

Lol can't believe some england fans are still blaming the toss and Pitch when the games reaching day 5 lol.

You aren't seriously suggesting the toss didn't have a significant effect on this game , surely ? That if England had batted first they would still be in this struggle to play out five sessions for a draw ?

I am not complaining about it , by the way - the luck of the toss is part of the game. And India took full advantage of it by playing enterprising cricket on day one...they will deserve their win.

But please don't try to tell me the toss wasn't a big factor in this match !

Do you honestly seriously think England would have won the game if they won the toss on a pitch that had help for the bowlers on day 1 and England struggled against Ashwin on Day 2.

[alfie]

Anyway : that was a good hard fought day of Test cricket. England actually had the better of it - but not enough to redress the effect of that horror session on day two ; which has basically lost them the match.
The last ball loss of Cook has probably endured a reasonably easy task of mopping up tomorrow for India : had he survived to the end they might have been feeling a bit twitchy about the task of taking the last nine in ninety.

Hameed - who really was a victim of the pitch ! - has given another sign that he is the brightest opening prospect England have tried in this last four years. Temperament is important in the five day game ; and his is well suited. Not a little skill , either...

Hope the rest of the batsmen sell their wickets dearly. Won't stop them going one down ; but might be good for morale for the next game.

[Dr Cricket]

I will say it again the pitch wasn't flat on day 1, had enough help for the pace men and spinner, not india fault england are so crap with the ball and they scored way too many runs on day 1 and in the first innings.
How that makes this a bad pitch or win the toss and win the game since the pitch changed drastically from day 1 is baffling and so many sore losers around at the moment.

[meninblue]

One impressive thing about teams performance is that after the loss of 2/22, the team came back and carried the favorites tag and since then never let England come back into the match. Complacency never set in.

[meninblue]

Anyway : that was a good hard fought day of Test cricket. England actually had the better of it - but not enough to redress the effect of that horror session on day two ; which has basically lost them the match.
The last ball loss of Cook has probably endured a reasonably easy task of mopping up tomorrow for India : had he survived to the end they might have been feeling a bit twitchy about the task of taking the last nine in ninety.

Hameed - who really was a victim of the pitch ! - has given another sign that he is the brightest opening prospect England have tried in this last four years. Temperament is important in the five day game ; and his is well suited. Not a little skill , either...

Hope the rest of the batsmen sell their wickets dearly. Won't stop them going one down ; but might be good for morale for the next game.

Regarding Haseeb, i am sure he is very capable of performing a lot better than this with more experience at least on sub continental wickets.

[meninblue]

Haseeb is technically strong due to his footwork being good against pacers and spinners on such wickets. In both tests he has shown he values his wicket a lot and has lot of temperament as well.

Hopefully he will show similar promise away from Asia.

[Dr Cricket]

Don't see many issues with Hasseb games but hard to say at the moment since he hasn't played on a quick deck yet and he might be found to have issues with the quick stuff or short ball but at the moment looks a very solid batsman and hard to see him failing in many places in the world.
even if he struggles with the quick stuff he only really going to get it in Australia and SA.
With England, Asia, WI all being quite slow and NZ isn't that quick either and vast majority of grounds have started to be more slow and flatter these days as well so if you are technical sound and got a good temperament you should do well in most conditions and games.