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bhaveshgor wrote:Smith is the lucky git having to play 6 test a year in Australia, 6-8 easy centuries a year.
Always a good laugh though reading old people views on cricket lol when their think scoring in Australia is tough or means they a proper cricketer and scoring in Asia is not.
people think Kohli and Smith are bradman because they scored so many in Australia lol and are the greatest batsman in the world lol.
not even western/australia people saying it either, many indian are saying it as well lol.

might have been special scoring runs in Australia in the 90s or 2000s.
but scoring runs in Australia doesn't say anything really since anyone could score hundreds in Australia now, just no help for the seam bowlers or Spinners, a proper batting paradise.

The aussies have been lucky to have some very good bowlers who could get 20 wickets on those pitches

The only good thing about them is that most of the edges carry, same in SA which negates the lack of sideways movement

Whereas in Asia they don't

struggled to take 20 wickets against india in 2015, was hard work against NZ as well in two test matches. but yes they are lucky to have a good attack although I think home advantage plays a bigger part than having a better attack.
think SA, England, Pak got a better seam attack than australia and they would still struggle to take 20 wickets. Australia bowler just know which length and line to bowl and generally take advantage of the opposition batting line up not being ready or use to the Australian conditions.

TBH these day the carry is better in India and sri lanka one reason for the shorter test matches there and more results.
Sri lanka even prepared green tops in recent times with good carry, remember loads of slip catches and keeper catches when india toured last year, like wise when pakistan toured.

really biggest difference is bowlers get no swing, no seam or no spin in Australian conditions where as generally their is something for the bowlers in Asian conditions either reverse swing or spin.

Good idea to declare after Ashwin's ton.

Guessing Ashwin will finally be regarded as an all rounder now.
been a fan of his batting since 2011, surprised to find he averages 45 against england 73 against WI not including today century either.

think statically he is the best all rounder to get the 1000, 100 wicket and 1000, 50 wicket milestone.
quicker than botham in that regard.

Third Test ton for Ravi. Well done to him. India batting on for now, though by the clock, I think it's nearly tea.

bhaveshgor wrote:Guessing Ashwin will finally be regarded as an all rounder now.
been a fan of his batting since 2011, surprised to find he averages 45 against england 73 against WI not including today century either.

think statically he is the best all rounder to get the 1000, 100 wicket and 1000, 50 wicket milestone.
quicker than botham in that regard.

Obviously loves batting against WI.

His 3 hundreds have come against them.

I remember him getting about 90 when the game was already lost against England. Kolkata I think. Or Mumbai.

91* at Eden Gardens. The game was dead. Quite like him as a bat though, easily a number seven. Though he's mostly been at nine hasn't he, behind Jadeja?

Apart from the three hundreds v WI, and that 91, his best scores are scores of 60-70. Probably from batting so low. If India don't move him up, they're at risk of wasting his talent with the bat.

Giving him the chance in this series, seems to have taken it pretty well.

Arthur Crabtree wrote:91* at Eden Gardens. The game was dead. Quite like him as a bat though, easily a number seven. Though he's mostly been at nine hasn't he, behind Jadeja?

wasn't technically dead, he was batting with dhoni I think to see if they could get a bigger lead to trouble england.
Handled Anderson reverse swing like a pro and looked like a proper bat, was good in Australia in 2012 as well struggled a bit when his bowling was under pressure in 2013/2014, but was ok since he was batting at number 9 and really struggled because he was slogging and isn't a slogger to save his life.

yep only batted 6 or 7 3 times in his career mostly at 8 or 9 if one of Binny or Jadeja plays.

Important innings really since ashwin going to be important if Kohli wants 5 proper bowlers and only play 5 batsman 5 bowlers and 1 keeper.

not sure it would work against stronger teams though especially with having 3 proper number 11 in the seam options and the seam bowler than can bat isn't really pushing for an inclusion to be in the side now.
most of the batters are spinners or seam options not really having any chance of being in the squad or team.

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Apart from the three hundreds v WI, and that 91, his best scores are scores of 60-70. Probably from batting so low. If India don't move him up, they're at risk of wasting his talent with the bat.

yep their was a time when he was averaging higher than Kohli and statically the 2nd or 3rd best batsman in the team and he was batting at number 8.
Boycott called him the best number 8 he has ever seen.
although this was before Moeen Ali, Chris Woakes started batting for england, think Woakes or Ali gets the mention now but Ashwin was probably the first one to be called that.
Although their is a risk of moving him up the order and then weaking the batting line up with india basically having an average batsman keeper and then 3 number 11 and one number 9/10.
india can only have a strong lower order if they pick 2 spinners and one seam bowling all rounder.

India dishing out a total mauling.

Probably declare around 600.

Or they could declare at the very next ball.

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Apart from the three hundreds v WI, and that 91, his best scores are scores of 60-70. Probably from batting so low. If India don't move him up, they're at risk of wasting his talent with the bat.

sorry wrong game was mumbai where ashwin had a partnership with dhoni got india to 327 from 169/6
but he was impressive in the way he shield the tail in the kolkata game.