Fourth Ashes Test: Old Trafford, 4-8 September.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Leach getting Smith with a no ball is sort of unlucky given how few no balls are delivered by spinners. But very costly.

[bigfluffylemon]

Leach getting Smith with a no ball is sort of unlucky given how few no balls are delivered by spinners. But very costly.

Well, England had the luck last game. Looks as if it might be evening out. That said, dropped catches and no balls are their own fault.

[Durhamfootman]

after seeing the highlights of England in the field, they don't deserve to win the game and, of course, they won't. The job now is find a way to eke out a draw. Radical idea, but not getting bowled for a derisory first innings score might be a good starting point

that feels hopeful, though

[Durhamfootman]

Roy continues to impress with some more dropped catches

It feels as though England are hell bent on ruining him as a cricketer. It'll serve them right if this dreadful series experience damages his confidence so much that his white ball form falls apart

Denly's dismissal was damned unlucky

[Arthur Crabtree]

One of England's better sessions of the series.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Play to start 13.30.

[Durhamfootman]

that didn't take long

and so it begins. Not to worry... Overton will get another go later tonight

[Arthur Crabtree]

Roy is presumed to be a better player at five. Wonder how much better.

Feel sympathy for Denly. He was treated badly to be pushed aside so Roy could have a more felicitous opportunity.

[yuppie]

Burns playing and missing as much as Denly last night.

[Durhamfootman]

Roy is presumed to be a better player at five. Wonder how much better.

Feel sympathy for Denly. He was treated badly to be pushed aside so Roy could have a more felicitous opportunity.

agreed

a more established player would have told them to ssip off

[Durhamfootman]

Burns playing and missing as much as Denly last night.

I think that is part of the openers art. Roy unfortunately couldn't miss the ball

[Durhamfootman]

and couldn't find the middle of the bat either

[yuppie]

and couldn't find the middle of the bat either

Maybe he was a better bat because he could make contact. Through out this series Denly and Burns have been shown to be useless at edging the ball when they waft their bat outside off.

Pitch is looking ok to bat on. Think if the batsman can get in, then they should do well.

[backfootpunch]

Outrageous turn and bounce for lyon

Going to be a hard 3 days for England

Not looking a good toss to lose

[yuppie]

I think Root is looking good at present. Maybe a return to form for him.

Will be tough facing Lyon here, with Australia having the runs on the board.