World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby yuppie » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:47 pm

rich1uk wrote:
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dan08 wrote:Has there been any batsman in this World Cup that has got the better of Starc?



Starcs probably happy that he doesn't have to bowl to Smith, he seems to be on a different level to most batsmen at present. It just seems so easy for him at present


yeah , he just seems to have so much time to play his shots , watching him and finch bat together was such a contrast today



From the highlights i have seen, most batters seemed to struggle a bit today today. Smith was just on another level.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby braveneutral » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:25 pm

Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby GarlicJam » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:13 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:
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GarlicJam wrote:NZ played their final the other night.


I agree. I reckon we'll smash them


Recent history suggests otherwise ;)

I don't get you - NZ have won no World Cup Finals.....


Aus have won a couple.
Maybe
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby bigfluffylemon » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:17 pm

sussexpob wrote:India never attacked the rate consistently.... they did so for 3 overs before Dhawan got out, and even at 15 per over required, took singles. You cant play like they did past over 10 to 30 and win matches, even in this T20, 100 runs from last ten overs day.

8 an over or 9 an over can be chased in a pure T20, probably fairly regularly, but wickets down and extending that to an extra 5-10 overs is asking way too much. India batted themselves in a hole through the innings.

That style of batting leads to a loss all the time. Throwing it earlier and losing a few wickets might lose you a game 10 overs before, but it is also the only way you can win. Apart from Dhawan, who played the correct type of innings, others just came in and got out to poor dismissals after putting pressure on themselves.


Agreed, it was a very odd chase. The openers set the platform nicely but the cluster of those 4 wickets meant that Rahane and Dhoni had to play too carefully to rebuild and left themselves with too much to do. It is astonishing that between them Rahane and Dhoni faced 133 balls and hit just 7 boundaries. I kept on expecting Dhoni to go for it, but even in the 40-42 overs with the RRR approaching 15 he seemed content to milk the singles. And the run-out was bizarre - it looked as it he gave up. No dive? In a World Cup semi? I think he gave up.

It was clearly a harder pitch to bat on than it looked, as on the Australian side Smith was amazing, but everyone else struggled to get going (apart from Johnson at the end, I suppose). And Australia did bowl well. But it is odd that India didn't go down swinging.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:50 pm

I had a similar feeling about Dhoni's run out. It felt like there was no spark there. At the end of the game, he just isolated the pace bowlers for giving away too many runs. Rather than the top order for getting out. But chasing big totals is what we expect of India. I could understand how he batted until over 30-ish, but not after that.

It might be that the bowling was too good for him, but he didn't even pressure the fifth bowler.

A great player, but he looked a troubled person today. I wonder if he took too rigidly his dictum that if you take the game deep, you put the pressure back on the bowlers? But it doesn't work if they are defending 15 runs an over.

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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby yuppie » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:28 am

Dhoni could have dived, heck even if he stretched and grounded his bat he could have made it. He was not that far away, and seemed to give up well before the throw came in.

Dhoni's innings was a very strange innings.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby yuppie » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:01 am

Surprised not more has been said of Kohlis innings. Coming in after a pretty good start, 13 balls and 1 run. Dhoni gets questioned about his innings, but the star player seems to get off scott free.

His tournament has been poor. A good 100 against Pakistan, but since then he did nothing of note.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby Gingerfinch » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:38 am

yuppie wrote:Dhoni could have dived, heck even if he stretched and grounded his bat he could have made it. He was not that far away, and seemed to give up well before the throw came in.

Dhoni's innings was a very strange innings.


Just seen the Dhoni run out. Odd not to dive, when there was so much on the line.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby dan08 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:37 am

Gingerfinch wrote:
yuppie wrote:Dhoni could have dived, heck even if he stretched and grounded his bat he could have made it. He was not that far away, and seemed to give up well before the throw came in.

Dhoni's innings was a very strange innings.


Just seen the Dhoni run out. Odd not to dive, when there was so much on the line.

Not really. They were never going to score 98 off 34 balls.
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Re: World Cup S/F 2, Australia vs India, March 26

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:41 am

dan08 wrote:
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yuppie wrote:Dhoni could have dived, heck even if he stretched and grounded his bat he could have made it. He was not that far away, and seemed to give up well before the throw came in.

Dhoni's innings was a very strange innings.


Just seen the Dhoni run out. Odd not to dive, when there was so much on the line.

Not really. They were never going to score 98 off 34 balls.


I suppose, though instinct would have said at least try.
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