Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby SaintPowelly » Mon May 04, 2015 5:49 pm

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As for averaging 46 last year, again a case of presenting stats to depict an untrue picture. Now just to give some context, he played a grand total of THREE Tests last year (6 innings). The average is padded up by a 70 odd not out chasing a score of 120 in quick time vs NZ (T20 type scenario - if you watched that innings, it was a proper T20 innings) and a 65 in the first innings of the first Test where he looked like getting out almost each and every delivery to Southee but somehow managed not to get a nick before feasting on some short deliveries from Ish Sodhi to help himself to a fifty. He failed in the other 4 innings and looked clueless against swing. Anyone who actually WATCHED that series will argue that as a case against Gayle playing tests as opposed to a case for him. Before that, he missed the series in NZ through injury and failed in India and a bit before that, in Bangladesh. I don't understand how anyone who has watched him bat in Tests and ODIs post the 2012 World t20 triumph can argue that he is still fit to play anything more than 20 overs. But sure, you can pretend everything is rosy with those selective stats without any context.


His ODI form in 2015 is to average 38 at 116SR.....

His last test year he averaged 46, and despite your accusation of selective stats, was only a few runs away in one test from making sure he scored a 50 in each one.....

Currently averaging 40 in IPL 2015....


If this means he is finished, then I despair for everyone else playing cricket.... you set the bench mark very high.


I think its the manner in which Gayle plays his innings, gives people a false impression of him.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby greyblazer » Tue May 05, 2015 8:09 am

Even when Moores talks about Root's performances he mentions his average. Better to have a statistician as a head coach of England then ;)
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 05, 2015 8:52 am

Wow, Sir Geoffrey is known for his straight talking but he is really sticking it here -


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ptain.html
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby sussexpob » Tue May 05, 2015 9:12 am

Aidan11 wrote:Wow, Sir Geoffrey is known for his straight talking but he is really sticking it here -


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ptain.html


Needs to be said, fair play
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 05, 2015 9:20 am

Typical blowhard outburst from Boycott. The stuff about upsetting Yorkshiremen is comedy.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 05, 2015 9:26 am

Not wrong though. And at least someone in the press hasn't been taking his ecb soma today.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 05, 2015 12:28 pm

Graves has shot himself in the foot promising an enquiry if we failed to win.

I suppose there will be an enquiry but it will just paper over the cracks.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 05, 2015 12:28 pm

Even though I found out today that Strauss & Moores are not best buddies.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 05, 2015 1:23 pm

Boycott says Cook is so far up himself........well he should know.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 05, 2015 1:24 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Even though I found out today that Strauss & Moores are not best buddies.

I heard that yesterday, anyone know why that is?
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 05, 2015 1:29 pm

Strauss was one of those (Freddie too, Swann, Collingwood) who supposedly said they'd back KP when he went against Moores to the ECB first time around. Once KP did that, they said they didn't have a problem with Moores. They thought data-peta was a crap coach.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby sussexpob » Tue May 05, 2015 2:12 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Strauss was one of those (Freddie too, Swann, Collingwood) who supposedly said they'd back KP when he went against Moores to the ECB first time around. Once KP did that, they said they didn't have a problem with Moores. They thought data-peta was a crap coach.


He will probably just write news articles about how great a bloke Moores is, when forget his is being broadcast live on air and call him a c*nt when we play NZ
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby shankycricket » Tue May 05, 2015 4:04 pm

I probably wouldn't have used the "a" word but hard to disagree with anything Sir G says tbh. Nice to see someone calling a spade a spade for a change!
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 05, 2015 4:10 pm

English cricket is a laughing stock thank to this old-pals-act.
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Re: Third Test: West Indies v England, 1-5 May.

Postby alfie » Wed May 06, 2015 12:49 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Wow, Sir Geoffrey is known for his straight talking but he is really sticking it here -


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ptain.html


Leaving aside the inherent absurdity of Boycott lecturing anyone about over-cautious cricket , I think he has overreacted slightly to what sounds to me like a slightly humorous comment on the disparaging remarks about West Indies cricket which the new boss made , perhaps unwisely , before the series.
Criticism of Cook is one thing - everyone is entitled to their opinion ; but this sounds like a witch hunt.

And I am sure Aidan can take care of that without any help from Geoffrey :)
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