1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:53 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:We were essentially behind the whole game probably from the moment we lost the toss and never caught up, even when we took the last two wickets quickly yesterday morning.

Not many people expected us to chase down the runs, so we can make excuses for poor batting, but there was the normal sense of inevitably to it all. We could have had ten go's at it and may have got home once.


I can't agree with that budget. The pitch was docile with no demons for pace or spin, the Pakistan attack only threatened occasionally and the outfield was lightning fast. Most dismissals were self inflicted and the batting of Ballance, Bairstow and Woakes showed that sensible application was possible.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:11 am

I dont think the pitch did nothing. There was turn for the spinner, reverse for the pacers, some uneven bounce. Having said that it reminded me a bit of the old pitches you used to get at the Gabba before its redevelopment......play well, and you can get 400, play badly and get 200.

England played badly.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:11 am

It's funny that the same thing is about to happen again. The batsmen fail so two bowlers are about to be dropped.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:20 am

The real mystery is why Anderson and Stokes weren't playing in the first place. Certainly Anderson.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:24 am

hopeforthebest wrote:It's funny that the same thing is about to happen again. The batsmen fail so two bowlers are about to be dropped.


:thumb

An excellent point I 100% agree with. England reduce a team to 550 in two innings, and they want to replace two bowlers.

The bowlers did enough to win the match, the batting failed them.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:57 am

Anderson and Stokes were always coming back irrespective of what happened in the game.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:12 am

Yes, the real change is Woakes for Finn. If that is what happens....
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:44 am

sussexpob wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:just catching up with the coverage Root talking lots of ******* in the interview in the morning.
this isn't the old stereotypical pakistan.
what I have seen of pakistan they been very fit, motivated and focus can't see them being unpredictable, frustrating and inconsistent like the streotypical pakistan.


England lost because in cruical phases, they lost their heads.

Pakistan came to play proper test cricket, and really dug in when they needed to and produced partnerships that won the game.

Not suprised that an England cricket has resorted to tired cliche, or arrogance, mind.


Tim bresnan getting a lot of stick on twitter.
for this tweet.
That might bite you boys. Carma catches up with you eventually. It did with the Sprinkler.

I know he was, Just think it is ridiculous for him and england team to question the celebration when they piss on the pitch at the oval as a celebration.

Just watching 2 mins of Sky Sports news so ridiculous the media are questioning the pakistani celebration, good on Ashley Giles for not having any issues with it.


think pissing on this pitch is totally different to celebrating your time with the soldiers lol.


Bresnan is referring to the sprinkler dance in auatralia after winning the ashes not the urinating on the pitch


I know he was, Just think it is ridiculous for him and england team to question the celebration when they piss on the pitch at the oval as a celebration, by the way I have no issues with the sprinkler dance and england did not lose the future ashes contest because of it they lost because they were beaten by the better side.
Surely they didn't link getting beaten to a dance.


Just watching 2 mins of Sky Sports news so ridiculous the media are questioning the pakistani celebration, good on Ashley Giles for not having any issues with it.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:46 am

hopeforthebest wrote:Were they playing Jerusalem during this game? I don't remember hearing it blaring out when England came onto the field.

Nope they didn't play yesterday only the lyrics were on the screen with no one singing it or really caring if it was on, maybe PCB said no to it unless they are allowed a similar national song/anthem to be played before the start of the cricket.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:47 am

No Jerusalem? No wonder we lost!
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:50 am

Gingerfinch wrote:No Jerusalem? No wonder we lost!

Yeah did actually like it in 2014, missed it in 2015 and didn't hear it on day 5 against Sri lanka.
Swear down the song does get to you so much better than the crap of god save the queen.
They really need a referendum on the national anthem lol, although I believe Jerusalem is the favourite to win since loads of polls suggest 60 % British or English people prefer it to God save the Queen.

Didn't see much barmy army either but they mostly don't bother with the home games anyway.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:53 am

You used to get quite a few barmy armiers at Edgbaston.
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:05 am

Telegraph reporting half the side is in danger, although it isn't an article some photo gallery.
They saying Hales, Vince, Ballance, Ali, Finn Ball all playing for their spot in this series, TBH you could then add Stokes to it really considering he is inconsistent right now and for me he is not a top 6 batsman so England got 7 players in the squad where people are not sure if they will perform.

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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:07 am

Probably easier to list those whose positions are secure.

Cook
Root
Bairstow
Woakes
Broad
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Re: 1st Test England v Pakistan, Lord's 14-18 July

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:12 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Probably easier to list those whose positions are secure.

Cook
Root
Bairstow
Woakes
Broad

Anderson as well.

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