SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby Making_Splinters » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:22 pm

It's interesting to watch Australia play against an Australian style side. While they could mark off the Sri Lankan series as an embarrassing, but, away series defeat in foreign conditions. Losing to South Africa at home will be inexcusable especially a South African side missing AB .
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby The Professor » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:57 pm

I think South Africa are going to make Australia suffer.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:53 pm

After day 1, with SA out for 240, and Aus 100 and odd for 0, I would not have predicted SA going into day 4 with nearly a 400 run advantage and wickets still in hand. If they set a big enough target by lunch, or just after, the absence of Steyn may not affect the outcome of the game hugely
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:19 pm

Who were the bookies' favorites for this series?
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby dan08 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:31 pm

shankycricket wrote:Who were the bookies' favorites for this series?

Australia.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:55 pm

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shankycricket wrote:Who were the bookies' favorites for this series?

Australia.

It has changed quite dramatically, the odds I mean.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby yuppie » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:56 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:It's interesting to watch Australia play against an Australian style side. While they could mark off the Sri Lankan series as an embarrassing, but, away series defeat in foreign conditions. Losing to South Africa at home will be inexcusable especially a South African side missing AB .



It wont be the first time Australia has lost to SA in Australia. A much better side lost to SA in 2008/09. The difference was then that Australia went to SA and won over there. I really can not see this team beating anyone overseas. Maybe Zim, WI.

The bowling is pretty ok. It is the batting, I can not remember a worse batting line up. Maybe the 84-85 team? Though that had Border in it, and how Australia could do with a batsman as good as border now.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby bigfluffylemon » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Perth was the venue where South Africa scored over 400 to win in 2008, and only 4 down. In the absence of Steyn, I doubt South Africa will feel comfortable without another 70 or so on the board.

Australia looked undercooked yesterday - Siddle and Starc were both clearly getting tired, especially Starc. But the flurry of wickets towards the end suggests that there is still a bit of something for bowlers - batsmen who get in have to make it count.

After the SL series, which can be written off as an ambush in unfamiliar conditions (not necessarily true, but that line can be spun) with no-one in Australia paying attention because it was footy finals season, losing to a South Africa side missing their best batsman and best bowler will not go down well. But then, we might have expected this. South Africa love Perth. Should have stuck with the traditional season opener at Brisbane. Australia are impossible to beat there.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:09 pm

yuppie wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:It's interesting to watch Australia play against an Australian style side. While they could mark off the Sri Lankan series as an embarrassing, but, away series defeat in foreign conditions. Losing to South Africa at home will be inexcusable especially a South African side missing AB .



It wont be the first time Australia has lost to SA in Australia. A much better side lost to SA in 2008/09. The difference was then that Australia went to SA and won over there. I really can not see this team beating anyone overseas. Maybe Zim, WI.

The bowling is pretty ok. It is the batting, I can not remember a worse batting line up. Maybe the 84-85 team? Though that had Border in it, and how Australia could do with a batsman as good as border now.

Come on man, they won in NZ earlier this year and won in SA in 2014 with pretty much the same core. Sure, Clarke was around but he had only 1 good innings (albeit a crucial one). They are not that bad. Sure, they have their issues in Asia and England and at home vs SA but are fine elsewhere.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby yuppie » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:14 pm

shankycricket wrote:
yuppie wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:It's interesting to watch Australia play against an Australian style side. While they could mark off the Sri Lankan series as an embarrassing, but, away series defeat in foreign conditions. Losing to South Africa at home will be inexcusable especially a South African side missing AB .



It wont be the first time Australia has lost to SA in Australia. A much better side lost to SA in 2008/09. The difference was then that Australia went to SA and won over there. I really can not see this team beating anyone overseas. Maybe Zim, WI.

The bowling is pretty ok. It is the batting, I can not remember a worse batting line up. Maybe the 84-85 team? Though that had Border in it, and how Australia could do with a batsman as good as border now.

Come on man, they won in NZ earlier this year and won in SA in 2014 with pretty much the same core. Sure, Clarke was around but he had only 1 good innings (albeit a crucial one). They are not that bad. Sure, they have their issues in Asia and England and at home vs SA but are fine elsewhere.



They have a guy coming it at 6 that has the test average of 24, and the guy at 7 has a test average of 20. Australia's tail starts at 6.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:18 pm

yuppie wrote:
shankycricket wrote:
yuppie wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:It's interesting to watch Australia play against an Australian style side. While they could mark off the Sri Lankan series as an embarrassing, but, away series defeat in foreign conditions. Losing to South Africa at home will be inexcusable especially a South African side missing AB .



It wont be the first time Australia has lost to SA in Australia. A much better side lost to SA in 2008/09. The difference was then that Australia went to SA and won over there. I really can not see this team beating anyone overseas. Maybe Zim, WI.

The bowling is pretty ok. It is the batting, I can not remember a worse batting line up. Maybe the 84-85 team? Though that had Border in it, and how Australia could do with a batsman as good as border now.

Come on man, they won in NZ earlier this year and won in SA in 2014 with pretty much the same core. Sure, Clarke was around but he had only 1 good innings (albeit a crucial one). They are not that bad. Sure, they have their issues in Asia and England and at home vs SA but are fine elsewhere.



They have a guy coming it at 6 that has the test average of 24, and the guy at 7 has a test average of 20. Australia's tail starts at 6.

Obviously, the team selection has been horrible but this team can do much better with a few changes here and there. But saying they can't win anywhere other than WI and Zim when they just thrashed NZ this year seems harsh.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:20 pm

bigfluffylemon wrote:Perth was the venue where South Africa scored over 400 to win in 2008, and only 4 down. In the absence of Steyn, I doubt South Africa will feel comfortable without another 70 or so on the board.

Australia looked undercooked yesterday - Siddle and Starc were both clearly getting tired, especially Starc. But the flurry of wickets towards the end suggests that there is still a bit of something for bowlers - batsmen who get in have to make it count.

After the SL series, which can be written off as an ambush in unfamiliar conditions (not necessarily true, but that line can be spun) with no-one in Australia paying attention because it was footy finals season, losing to a South Africa side missing their best batsman and best bowler will not go down well. But then, we might have expected this. South Africa love Perth. Should have stuck with the traditional season opener at Brisbane. Australia are impossible to beat there.

Really this make it so hard to take Australia seriously right now, kind off funny when Some fans/Commentators only just found out now Australia is in bad form or struggling at the moment in cricket.

Although Australia pay tv system is so weird and in particular cricket, cricket can go from being one of the highest viewing sports in Australia and then go to a sport that no one watches or cares about in the winter.
Fox sports doesn't even bother with cricket now considering most don't watch it in the winter and they are quite reluctant to show cricket on Fox as well.
Australia is a very unique place where pay tv isn't that popular and don't call the shots.

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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:22 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
bigfluffylemon wrote:Perth was the venue where South Africa scored over 400 to win in 2008, and only 4 down. In the absence of Steyn, I doubt South Africa will feel comfortable without another 70 or so on the board.

Australia looked undercooked yesterday - Siddle and Starc were both clearly getting tired, especially Starc. But the flurry of wickets towards the end suggests that there is still a bit of something for bowlers - batsmen who get in have to make it count.

After the SL series, which can be written off as an ambush in unfamiliar conditions (not necessarily true, but that line can be spun) with no-one in Australia paying attention because it was footy finals season, losing to a South Africa side missing their best batsman and best bowler will not go down well. But then, we might have expected this. South Africa love Perth. Should have stuck with the traditional season opener at Brisbane. Australia are impossible to beat there.

Really this make it so hard to take Australia seriously right now, kind off funny when Some fans/Commentators only just found out now Australia is in bad form or struggling at the moment in cricket.

Although Australia pay tv system is so weird and in particular cricket, cricket can go from being one of the highest viewing sports in Australia and then go to a sport that no one watches or cares about in the winter.
Fox sports doesn't even bother with cricket now considering most don't watch it in the winter and they are quite reluctant to show cricket on Fox as well.
Australia is a very unique place where pay tv isn't that popular and don't call the shots.

You really love a good moan about other teams. I suppose your team having a full home season for 2 years on tailor made dirt decks against teams that can't play spin makes it easy to gloat.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:26 pm

shankycricket wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
bigfluffylemon wrote:Perth was the venue where South Africa scored over 400 to win in 2008, and only 4 down. In the absence of Steyn, I doubt South Africa will feel comfortable without another 70 or so on the board.

Australia looked undercooked yesterday - Siddle and Starc were both clearly getting tired, especially Starc. But the flurry of wickets towards the end suggests that there is still a bit of something for bowlers - batsmen who get in have to make it count.

After the SL series, which can be written off as an ambush in unfamiliar conditions (not necessarily true, but that line can be spun) with no-one in Australia paying attention because it was footy finals season, losing to a South Africa side missing their best batsman and best bowler will not go down well. But then, we might have expected this. South Africa love Perth. Should have stuck with the traditional season opener at Brisbane. Australia are impossible to beat there.

Really this make it so hard to take Australia seriously right now, kind off funny when Some fans/Commentators only just found out now Australia is in bad form or struggling at the moment in cricket.

Although Australia pay tv system is so weird and in particular cricket, cricket can go from being one of the highest viewing sports in Australia and then go to a sport that no one watches or cares about in the winter.
Fox sports doesn't even bother with cricket now considering most don't watch it in the winter and they are quite reluctant to show cricket on Fox as well.
Australia is a very unique place where pay tv isn't that popular and don't call the shots.

You really love a good moan about other teams. I suppose your team having a full home season for 2 years on tailor made dirt decks against teams that can't play spin makes it easy to gloat.


What you don't find it funny Australia just found out they can't play spin or struggle in Asia after losing 13 straight test matches in Asia.
Last year people didn't even know Australia lost 3-0 in UAE Lol.
Anyway looks like you forgotten india had 2 yrs of away tours before this home season.
Hate to break it too you shanky but everytime Australia lose away from home and they play at home, everyone going to make the joke considering most in Australia just follow Home series and the fact Channel 9 are so clueless and stupid in the comm box.

This tweet says everything.
Says a lot about way cricket is consumed in Aus that can be hammered 3-0 in SL but it takes poor performance at home for people to notice

Didn't happen on Channel 9, didn't happen


will be a running joke not sure why you getting angry considering most people in the world know Australian people don't watch away series.
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Re: SA tour of Australia, Oct 22-Nov 28

Postby shankycricket » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:30 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
shankycricket wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
bigfluffylemon wrote:Perth was the venue where South Africa scored over 400 to win in 2008, and only 4 down. In the absence of Steyn, I doubt South Africa will feel comfortable without another 70 or so on the board.

Australia looked undercooked yesterday - Siddle and Starc were both clearly getting tired, especially Starc. But the flurry of wickets towards the end suggests that there is still a bit of something for bowlers - batsmen who get in have to make it count.

After the SL series, which can be written off as an ambush in unfamiliar conditions (not necessarily true, but that line can be spun) with no-one in Australia paying attention because it was footy finals season, losing to a South Africa side missing their best batsman and best bowler will not go down well. But then, we might have expected this. South Africa love Perth. Should have stuck with the traditional season opener at Brisbane. Australia are impossible to beat there.

Really this make it so hard to take Australia seriously right now, kind off funny when Some fans/Commentators only just found out now Australia is in bad form or struggling at the moment in cricket.

Although Australia pay tv system is so weird and in particular cricket, cricket can go from being one of the highest viewing sports in Australia and then go to a sport that no one watches or cares about in the winter.
Fox sports doesn't even bother with cricket now considering most don't watch it in the winter and they are quite reluctant to show cricket on Fox as well.
Australia is a very unique place where pay tv isn't that popular and don't call the shots.

You really love a good moan about other teams. I suppose your team having a full home season for 2 years on tailor made dirt decks against teams that can't play spin makes it easy to gloat.


What you don't find it funny Australia just found out they can't play spin or struggle in Asia after losing 13 straight test matches in Asia.
Last year people didn't even know Australia lost 3-0 in UAE Lol.
Anyway looks like you forgotten india had 2 yrs of away tours before this home season.

Can't wait for that cycle to start again! Hopefully all the teams for whom you have laid down these dirt decks will be in proper retaliation mode and serve up proper pitches instead of the disgraceful flat tracks served up everywhere (except England) on your last overseas sojourn.
Looks like your boys have avoided NZ this time and there are a couple of home series scheduled in between the overseas tours to take care of the numbers. :halo:
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