England Versus India - 1st Test (9 Nov - 13 Nov)

[Dr Cricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

[Dr Cricket]

Surprised some england journalist actually like the pitch now considering this is the most pitch you can ever get for a win the toss and boss the game.

Awful pitch not sure the excitement on the final day should change the view.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/whi ... socm4.html

But does make a valid point who the hell would like cricket if they saw this pitch all the time.

Hope the next 4 test goes back to the new indian pitches and not the shocking crap old indian pitches.

Bowler need to take wickets on the first 3-4 days.

Its good to see a proper pitch where average spinners don't look like the second coming of Warne and Murali. England spinners averaged 24 runs per wicket less than your overhyped dustbowl bullies. Give credit to the opposition for a change. This pitch was just 4 wickets away from a result despite 11 dropped catches and an extremely delayed declaration. Not too bad I'd say. Just shows how far you have been spoiled by seeing opposition batsmen pi** in their pants at the sight of Ashwin and Jadeja on a dustbowl that you seem unable to handle the fact that a team actually showed some fight and pluck and outplayed your boys.

Well be interesting to see how the "great" Aussie team cope in March.
Will they even draw a game or be competitive like the overhyped dustbowl bullies were in australia last time around.

[shankycricket]

Surprised some england journalist actually like the pitch now considering this is the most pitch you can ever get for a win the toss and boss the game.

Awful pitch not sure the excitement on the final day should change the view.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/whi ... socm4.html

But does make a valid point who the hell would like cricket if they saw this pitch all the time.

Hope the next 4 test goes back to the new indian pitches and not the shocking crap old indian pitches.

Bowler need to take wickets on the first 3-4 days.

Its good to see a proper pitch where average spinners don't look like the second coming of Warne and Murali. England spinners averaged 24 runs per wicket less than your overhyped dustbowl bullies. Give credit to the opposition for a change. This pitch was just 4 wickets away from a result despite 11 dropped catches and an extremely delayed declaration. Not too bad I'd say. Just shows how far you have been spoiled by seeing opposition batsmen pi** in their pants at the sight of Ashwin and Jadeja on a dustbowl that you seem unable to handle the fact that a team actually showed some fight and pluck and outplayed your boys.

Well be interesting to see how the "great" Aussie team cope in March.
Will they even draw a game or be competitive like the overhyped dustbowl bullies were in australia last time around.

No one has said Australia are great. I'd be glad if they can keep up their record of not getting bowled out in double digits in Asia. That would be a successful tour. Hopefully will blood and unearth some young blood instead of falling back to oldies.

[shankycricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia.

[shankycricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

[Dr Cricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia.

Think that more down to the team that actually won the toss, doubt the toss result played any part whatsoever on the result.

[meninblue]

Surprised some england journalist actually like the pitch now considering this is the most pitch you can ever get for a win the toss and boss the game.

Awful pitch not sure the excitement on the final day should change the view.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/whi ... socm4.html

But does make a valid point who the hell would like cricket if they saw this pitch all the time.

Hope the next 4 test goes back to the new indian pitches and not the shocking crap old indian pitches.

Bowler need to take wickets on the first 3-4 days.

Its good to see a proper pitch where average spinners don't look like the second coming of Warne and Murali. England spinners averaged 24 runs per wicket less than your overhyped dustbowl bullies. Give credit to the opposition for a change. This pitch was just 4 wickets away from a result despite 11 dropped catches and an extremely delayed declaration. Not too bad I'd say. Just shows how far you have been spoiled by seeing opposition batsmen pi** in their pants at the sight of Ashwin and Jadeja on a dustbowl that you seem unable to handle the fact that a team actually showed some fight and pluck and outplayed your boys.

I would say Ashwin is the worlds best spinner now. One bad match and you are calling him dust bowl bully .

Have you checked his career Shanky. Fastest to 200 wickets iirc.

[Dr Cricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

Not nervous at all want india to lose all 5 toss anyway, so people like you can't say india only won because of the toss and demean india victories.
Just making a point this is a *modded* pitch because the toss is so important unlike the new indian pitches which take the toss out of the equation.

[meninblue]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

Your prediction that there was only one winner today was totally wrong. You just dont realize our teams ability to fight under pressure. We shall see whether our opponents draw the test when we will win toss and bat first.

[Dr Cricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

Wow one match where india shouldn't have even chased 150, think sri lanka were still trailing with 3 or 4 wickets left.
I have no issues with india bowling first if the ball helping the bowlers in the first innings since I expect india 80% of the time to outbowl and outbat the opposition easily to make the win a formality.

[shankycricket]

Surprised some england journalist actually like the pitch now considering this is the most pitch you can ever get for a win the toss and boss the game.

Awful pitch not sure the excitement on the final day should change the view.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/whi ... socm4.html

But does make a valid point who the hell would like cricket if they saw this pitch all the time.

Hope the next 4 test goes back to the new indian pitches and not the shocking crap old indian pitches.

Bowler need to take wickets on the first 3-4 days.

Its good to see a proper pitch where average spinners don't look like the second coming of Warne and Murali. England spinners averaged 24 runs per wicket less than your overhyped dustbowl bullies. Give credit to the opposition for a change. This pitch was just 4 wickets away from a result despite 11 dropped catches and an extremely delayed declaration. Not too bad I'd say. Just shows how far you have been spoiled by seeing opposition batsmen pi** in their pants at the sight of Ashwin and Jadeja on a dustbowl that you seem unable to handle the fact that a team actually showed some fight and pluck and outplayed your boys.

I would say Ashwin is the worlds best spinner now. One bad match and you are calling him dust bowl bully .

Have you checked his career Shanky. Fastest to 200 wickets iirc.

I wasn't being entirely serious. It was just an irritant retort to Bhavesh's constant moaning about the pitch now that India have finally had one iffy Test at home. Ashwin is better than that but still has a lot to prove in unhelpful conditions. Not sure about being the best in the world though. Yasir and Herath are better on unhelpful wickets and equally good on helpful tracks. Pretty good article on spinners here. http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 65657.html

[meninblue]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

We are not nervous like other teams when we lose toss. We can atleat draw unlike other teams.

[shankycricket]

Doubt England would have gotten the same result in this game if England won the toss?
if the toss is so crucial to the result, god knows how anyone could say it is a good deck.
You might not the like the deck shanky but the Dust bowls you alluded at least takes the toss out of the equation and makes it less important as it is in Rajkot.

Yep, thats precisely why the team batting first has won 18 out of the the last 20 Tests in Asia. Herath humiliated your boys (were dismissed for a score lower than any of Australia's in their 4th innings in SL) the last time they had to chase on a turner and they had a tough time today as well. Looks like you are already nervous after losing one toss.

Your prediction that there was only one winner today was totally wrong. You just dont realize our teams abolkty to fight under pressure. We shall see whether our opponents draw the test when we will win toss and bat first.

My prediction was that it was a guaranteed draw and it got a lot tighter than I expected. Not sure how you inferred that I predicted an England win.

[Dr Cricket]

guessing the winner phrase, but I knew what you meant anyway, but can see why the confusion arose.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Wasn't that Clarrie Grimmett?

Not certain the toss was a big factor in this Test. Losing it would have added pressure to the situation of the tourists, yes. But the pitch lasted, and England were hard to shift in a potentially tricky third innings.