Pakistan tour of NZ, Nov 17-29

[Arthur Crabtree]

Cool hand Kane Williamson chasing them down. Good win for the Kiwis. Probably had the best of the conditions though.

[Dr Cricket]

pakistan struggling badly with the bat, think this is what everyone expected in england this summer.

We didn't ambush them with a greentop

Good point but think the pace of the wicket and them basically struggling with the bounce and swing is very telling really.
England were very generous last summer.
good have literally given a good deck with no grass and still thrashed pakistan 4-0.
really this is why most people that didn't watch the series were surprised Pakistan drew the series 2-2.
any deck like what india or Australia got and england would win 4-0 easily.
not really sure why london decks are dry and slow though england got a dreadful record there now.

[Dr Cricket]

I suppose these ultra low low scoring games aren't what Test cricket is all about. But they're usually tense.

Presume NZ will win...

This one hasn't been tense, been some shocking bad cricket from pakistan.
Pakistan hardly scored a run and must have faced plenty of overs as well.
if they batted well or normally they would have scored 250-300, don't think the pitch was a minefield either looked a good batting deck when I was watching.
yes first day was tricky but the live grass was going and the pitch was getting better to bat on.
scary part for pakistani fans would be how short balls and fast deck made them look so toothless at scoring runs.

Would have been tense if the pitch was actually a minefield and pakistan being all out for 160 was because the ball was seaming around, swinging and batting was impossible.
Sohail khan innings actually was a bad thing and put Azhar ali and Misbah partnership into shame really.

[Aidan11]

Good win in the end for NZ.

The way wickets were falling it was not a foregone conclusion at the start of the final innings.

[Aidan11]

Wonder how many tests have not seen any play on Day 1 and Day 5 but still produced a result.

[Dr Cricket]

Good win in the end for NZ.

The way wickets were falling it was not a foregone conclusion at the start of the final innings.

seriously thought it was with them only chasing 105.
maybe might be different if they chasing 200 or something but no way did pakistan have a chance with 105 especially with them batting 90 overs and every over making the pitch better for batting.

[Aidan11]

Good win in the end for NZ.

The way wickets were falling it was not a foregone conclusion at the start of the final innings.

seriously thought it was with them only chasing 105.
maybe might be different if they chasing 200 or something but no way did pakistan have a chance with 105 especially with them batting 90 overs and every over making the pitch better for batting.

I remember a test between these two in 1992 where the first 3 innings were similar and NZ lost the game.

Mind you, Pakistan did have Waqar and Wasim bowling.

[Dr Cricket]

Good win in the end for NZ.

The way wickets were falling it was not a foregone conclusion at the start of the final innings.

seriously thought it was with them only chasing 105.
maybe might be different if they chasing 200 or something but no way did pakistan have a chance with 105 especially with them batting 90 overs and every over making the pitch better for batting.

I remember a test between these two in 1992 where the first 3 innings were similar and NZ lost the game.

Mind you, Pakistan did have Waqar and Wasim bowling.

Think that made a difference.
plus suspect the ball was doing more as well.
thought the pitch was flat when pakistan were batting 2nd and they really should have scored 100 runs more.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Les Mis has been suspended for his side's poor over rate in Christchurch. ICC getting tough with Pakistan. If it's worse than England's, it must be pretty bad.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Cricinfo reports he wouldn't have played anyway as he has left the tour after the death of a relative.

[Dr Cricket]

Les Mis has been suspended for his side's poor over rate in Christchurch. ICC getting tough with Pakistan. If it's worse than England's, it must be pretty bad.

Don't think it was bad Arthur.
They were ok in the first day they bowled 56 overs and NZ 36 overs so would be harsh to penalise them for that and in the 2nd innings they bowled 36 overs.
very harsh penalty since don't think any overs were lost in the game and the game finished in 2 days and 1 session.

Seen way worse infringements before from all sides.

England have been worse arthur, although to be fair misbah first occurrence in england was fair thought Sohail khan was very slow and many of the pakistani bowlers couldn't bowl 2nd or 3rd spell for being knackered but then again don't think misbah was doing it purposely like England do he essentially had no bowlers at the time with Yasir expensive, Amir tired and Sohail, Rahat or Wahab riaz being very slow after a long spell, think Sohail khan couldn't even stand at one point.
This penalty very harsh though.
Still crazy how pakistan are the first team to be suspended when they not even the worse team in the last 2-3 yrs.
must be Pakistan first time they missed any overs during the 2-3 yrs and they been punished.

[shankycricket]

Was the toss important in this match?

[Arthur Crabtree]

Santner is in the squad for Neesham.

[Dr Cricket]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand ... 68103.html
Some quote from cricinfo.

While tawny Asian pitches can still prompt outrage and consternation, tracks coloured a lurid, nausea-inducing green have quietly become a New Zealand trademark. The response from most touring sides has been perfectly even-handed. "These are their home conditions," is the consensus. "We just have to play on what we get."

[Arthur Crabtree]

Boult is out. Probably Milne to come in, though Bracewell hs been added to the squad.