2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

[Arthur Crabtree]

I knew you had something to say about the toss!

Might be a better game if England win the... oh... it doesn't matter!

[Arthur Crabtree]

I'm sure England can make the pitch look as much of a minefield as the Kiwis.

[Dr Cricket]

I knew you had something to say about the toss!

Might be a better game if England win the... oh... it doesn't matter!

Should be a better game if England win the toss doubt still remain if India can chase a total to win test, haven't actually chased a game since 2013 to win a test.
Plus you never know what happens if England post 300 odd first up.

[Dr Cricket]

I'm sure England can make the pitch look as much of a minefield as the Kiwis.

England batted well in the first test and got a decent core of batsman plus they bat deep which can be dangerous.
Cook back in form as well.

Be surprised if they are poor like NZ that actually made the pitch look like a minefield, England did well on day 5 rajkot pitch under pressure for a session, India gave up too easily in the end but they batted well, no reason why they can't bat well here in similar condition on day 1 or 2.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Get the impression that batting gets easier with an older ball on these pitches as the bounce gets more predictable, so having a lot of batting helps. But that helps India more, at home anyway.

[Dr Cricket]

Get the impression that batting gets easier with an older ball on these pitches as the bounce gets more predictable, so having a lot of batting helps. But that helps India more, at home anyway.

Yep that is correct which can make reverse swing crucial although right now only India can get it to swing in India.
Reverse swing and the tail runs were the difference between India and NZ.

[Dr Cricket]

Get the impression that batting gets easier with an older ball on these pitches as the bounce gets more predictable, so having a lot of batting helps. But that helps India more, at home anyway.

The spin gets predictable as well.
Suspect this will be a good wicket for test cricket, predictable bounce and turn but help for the bowlers on day 1. I know groundsman saying day 2 before lunch but the guy talking hogwash really and being nice to the English media and players.

Wouldn't surprise me if all 4 innings are similar in total scored.

Anyway we should find out tomorrow.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Get the impression that batting gets easier with an older ball on these pitches as the bounce gets more predictable, so having a lot of batting helps. But that helps India more, at home anyway.

Yep that is correct which can make reverse swing crucial although right now only India can get it to swing in India.
Reverse swing and the tail runs were the difference between India and NZ.

Fair enough, different if there's reverse swing. Which England may get the hang of, given the ball and conditions, as the series goes on (they got some from the third Test last time, Finn with a little venom, and Anderson with guile). But yes, right now that helps India more.

[Dr Cricket]

Great awful start from india winning the toss.

yeah toss is massive in india right adi.

England have lost the toss in Vizag, but each of their last six wins in India, dating back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss

[meninblue]

Win the toss and elected to bat

[meninblue]

Great awful start from india winning the toss.

yeah toss is massive in india right adi.

England have lost the toss in Vizag, but each of their last six wins in India, dating back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss

Virat too beleives it is better to bat on day 3 and day 4 in second innings than to bat on day 4 and 5 in India. I agree with that logic as per my posts few days back that captains will prefer to bat first here

[Dr Cricket]

Great awful start from india winning the toss.

yeah toss is massive in india right adi.

England have lost the toss in Vizag, but each of their last six wins in India, dating back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss

Virat too beleives it is better to bat on day 3 and day 4 in second innings than to bat on day 4 and 5 in India. I agree with that logic as per my posts few days back that captains will prefer to bat first here

You seen the Ranji stats yet adi with 50-50% toss results and with most captains bowling first.
Big difference between saying teams would prefer to bat first and to say toss is so crucial that the only team winning is the team winning the toss.

[meninblue]

Great awful start from india winning the toss.

yeah toss is massive in india right adi.

England have lost the toss in Vizag, but each of their last six wins in India, dating back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss

Virat too beleives it is better to bat on day 3 and day 4 in second innings than to bat on day 4 and 5 in India. I agree with that logic as per my posts few days back that captains will prefer to bat first here

You seen the Ranji stats yet adi with 50-50% toss results and with most captains bowling first.
Big difference between saying teams would prefer to bat first and to say toss is so crucial that the only team winning is the team winning the toss.

I will give you stats if i manage time to do that research.

However, Cook won toss opted to bat first. Virat won toss opts to bat first. You will see this pattern continuing in 4 out of 5 tests if not throughout the 5 tests.Thats all i would say about this toss in India. Now it is time to cheer the team and follow scorecard while at work.

[meninblue]

Good to see Rahul is fit. Better inform option than Gauti as opener now and also better than Gauti in field.

[Dr Cricket]

Great awful start from india winning the toss.

yeah toss is massive in india right adi.

England have lost the toss in Vizag, but each of their last six wins in India, dating back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss

Virat too beleives it is better to bat on day 3 and day 4 in second innings than to bat on day 4 and 5 in India. I agree with that logic as per my posts few days back that captains will prefer to bat first here

You seen the Ranji stats yet adi with 50-50% toss results and with most captains bowling first.
Big difference between saying teams would prefer to bat first and to say toss is so crucial that the only team winning is the team winning the toss.

I will give you stats if i manage time to do that research.

However, Cook won toss opted to bat first. Virat won toss opts to bat first. You will see this pattern continuing in 4 out of 5 tests if not throughout the 5 tests.Thats all i would say about this toss in India. Now it is time to cheer the team and follow scorecard while at work.

Good luck finding evidence that a toss bias exist in india on Ranji trophy or Test it is impossible for Mumbai and india to dominate cricket in india if a toss bias exists.