2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Maybe a separate thread on the toss is the answer.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:56 pm

yuppie wrote:The repetitiveness of this debate is really making me not want to visit this forum.

Im sure that others are frustrated as well. Can we just not make a point, and then let others have their say and then leave it at that?

Flooding a topic with the same point is annoying and for me is ruining the whole discussion. Lively debate is good, but one has to accept that people will have a different view point sometimes

If one has a grievance about peoples views in the media, or something similar, please right about it in a blog. But in the match section can we just talk about the match with out saying the same thing 100 times? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, one might not agree with it, and can argue against it, but please can we stop going on and on and on about it.


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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby rich1uk » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:58 pm

yuppie wrote:The repetitiveness of this debate is really making me not want to visit this forum.

Im sure that others are frustrated as well. Can we just not make a point, and then let others have their say and then leave it at that?

Flooding a topic with the same point is annoying and for me is ruining the whole discussion. Lively debate is good, but one has to accept that people will have a different view point sometimes

If one has a grievance about peoples views in the media, or something similar, please right about it in a blog. But in the match section can we just talk about the match with out saying the same thing 100 times? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, one might not agree with it, and can argue against it, but please can we stop going on and on and on about it.


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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:42 pm

Then clearly people haven't been watching the India lords game, or the Australia games in Trent bride and edgebaston.
Or the May games.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:51 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:willis is an idiot win the toss win the match pitch this guy an idiot if he thinks england winning on this pitch by winning the toss.


It appears that everyone's an idiot except yourself presumably.


Well clearly people and comms need to start doing some reserch then instead of spreading lies and false information.
Anyway gonna start rant thread on this forum, would probably need one this home season with all the crap that always been said in the cricketing world.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby shankycricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:10 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:willis is an idiot win the toss win the match pitch this guy an idiot if he thinks england winning on this pitch by winning the toss.


It appears that everyone's an idiot except yourself presumably.

Pretty much.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby shankycricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:16 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:willis is an idiot win the toss win the match pitch this guy an idiot if he thinks england winning on this pitch by winning the toss.

I think England were 4 wickets short of victory the only time they batted first in this series so far and BCCI couldn't chase down 176 the last time they batted in the 4th innings before this series.


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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:26 pm

Called it on day one.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby shankycricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:27 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Called it on day one.

BEFORE the toss, I hope for Bhavesh's sake.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:30 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Called it on day one.


You were right, but it was still an early call.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:58 pm

Well kohli only lost 2 test in 18 or 19.
How many test has smith lost again.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:33 pm

Not sure what Smith has to do with this, but Kohli has only lead on series against a top non Sub Continental team away from home, which he lost.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:57 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Not sure what Smith has to do with this, but Kohli has only lead on series against a top non Sub Continental team away from home, which he lost.

Far better than what smith achieved at asia though anyway that was dig at australia fortunes.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:59 pm

Anyway the main think I love hault the guy clearly reads this thread or forum.
5. Ignore the toss myth

Win toss, win match is how it is supposed to go for touring teams in India and it was certainly crucial in Vizag. But each of England’s last six wins in India, going back to 1980, were achieved after a lost toss. It happened in Mumbai four years ago and Calcutta. New Zealand appeared to lose heart last month as soon as they lost the toss. England must guard against the same malaise.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016 ... nst-india/

You pretty much saw that in this test, no idea why england heads went down considering they had india 22/2.
Also looks like they been reading sussex point as well.
Most touring teams put their faith in spin to win in India but why? Indian batsmen are brilliant against spin, less so against seam. Shane Warne and Muttiah Muralitharan were hammered in India. Four years ago England had Swann and Panesar, two world class bowlers. Not anymore. Broad and Anderson took nine wickets on a spinner’s pitch in Vizag, Woakes peppered batsmen on a flat one in Rajkot. Jake Ball is an unknown to this India team and bowled cutters and cross seamer well in the one-dayers in Bangladesh. Time for a change of tactics.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:12 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Then clearly people haven't been watching the India lords game, or the Australia games in Trent bride and edgebaston.
Or the May games.

The ball barely did anything in those ashes games

Australia are just crap and go at it with hard hands

The same reason they got thumped by sri lanka and are getting thumped by South Africa

And SrI lanka struggled with swing not seam, nothing to do with the pitch unless you are suggesting we have a weather machine and roll out the sunshine when we are batting and the clouds when the touring side are
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