3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:55 pm

The way they are feiting Hameed is starting to annoy me

Just let the lad play

If he was 5 or 6 years older they wouldn't be saying half these things
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:03 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Yeah rashid a bit like Tahir, although Rashid been impressive in this series but the impression you always get with him that he will bowl a bad spell or have an awful game soon.
Anyway he been taking tail end wickets so that is a plus do think he might need to bowl less in the first innings, Rashid been quite ineffective when the ball not turning much so hard to see how he can actually be a number 1 spinner outside asia.
only really pujara, Kohli been picking him the rest all struggled against him so that also a good sign.


That's the benefit of stokes

We can play four seamers so we don't need a holding spinner in the first innings outside of asia

And we have had massive problems getting the tail out so if he can do that consistently that would be a big bonus


Also if Ali can continue his development and become a top 5 batsman full time we could play 2 spinners in all conditions.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:04 pm

backfootpunch wrote:The way they are feiting Hameed is starting to annoy me

Just let the lad play

If he was 5 or 6 years older they wouldn't be saying half these things


I agree, but I'm fairly sure I'm banned from drawing chagrin about this anymore.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:56 am

I agree about Hameed too.

By the sound of it Broad might be rotated/rested, especially as he had that injury concern, with Woakes coming back in, since he was rested for the second test. I reckon we'll see Buttler, Batty and Woakes for Duckett, Ansari and Broad.

Sounds odd to say after a heavy defeat, but England's performance in the first two tests has actually been decent. They've matched India for much of both games - the difference has really been in the class of Kohli, England's collapsing, and the greater experience of India in the conditions. Don't get me wrong, I still expect England to lose the series, and comfortably, but I wouldn't be surprised if they can sneak a win somewhere. Both sides can struggle under pressure, so if England can win the toss, put up a good score and then get Kohli out cheaply in reply, I think they could force a win.

I really think England are only three players (an opener, a middle order batsman and a spinner) away from being a very, very good side. I am probably far more optimistic about next year's Ashes that common sense and experience tells me I should be.

That said, it's going to be 3-0 or 3-1 India in this series :?
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby rich1uk » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:06 am

yeah we maybe have been a bit too much doom and gloom

i still think duckett needs to be persevered with, maybe not in this series, but he should still be there or thereabouts for the home summer, i think bell-drummond should be in contention as well, so its not like we dont have some options on the batting side. in cook, root, moeen, stokes and bairstow thats a pretty solid core to build around.

where the spinner is coming from i'm not so sure, i agree with what was said above that rashid needs to get a more consistent stock ball and then use his variations around that, but there have been some good signs from him. Leach is the obvious hope for another spinner but he's still young and maybe needs to show last year wasn't a fluke. after this series we dont play any test cricket til July i believe so people will have another chance in the first couple of months of the county season to stake a claim.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:30 am

I think they will be better off not listening to Kohli's wind up about playing too defensively. They should continue with the present plan. Chasing some impossible target and hitting the spinners isn't going to give a better outcome. India want England to go after the spinners. This is like some Steve Waugh mind game.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:33 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think they will be better off not listening to Kohli's wind up about playing too defensively. They should continue with the present plan. Chasing some impossible target and hitting the spinners isn't going to give a better outcome. India want England to go after the spinners. This is like some Steve Waugh mind game.


Kohli showing some arrogance in making those remarks and perhaps in the light of his performances in England he should ponder on how to improve his approach in English conditions. Mind you there is some truth in what he said, simply attempting to stonewall every delivery rarely succeeds over a long period unless you are of a certain mentality, which with the advent of one day cricket is a rare quality these days.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby meninblue » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:10 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think they will be better off not listening to Kohli's wind up about playing too defensively. They should continue with the present plan. Chasing some impossible target and hitting the spinners isn't going to give a better outcome. India want England to go after the spinners. This is like some Steve Waugh mind game.



Apart from top 3, remaining all are strokeplayers. I think he wants Cook, Haseeb and Joe to thrwo wickets..rightly so from his point of view.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:34 am

Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:42 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.


It's something to do with having a big mouth, something you should know a lot about.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:43 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.


It's something to do with having a big mouth, something you should know a lot about.

Seems like someone can't take it england are losing 1-0 then.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:48 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.


It's something to do with having a big mouth, something you should know a lot about.

What a big mouth got to do with him failing in england and then that having a part to play now. :stupid

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:54 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.


It's something to do with having a big mouth, something you should know a lot about.

What a big mouth got to do with him failing in england and then that having a part to play now. :stupid


You've singlehandedly ruined friendly debate on this site so why don't you take the advice ddb gave you yesterday and Troll off back from whence you came.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:59 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Not sure what kohli performances in England got to do with it since they not even playing in England or not going to very soon.
But again English fans only care about performances in England right.


It's something to do with having a big mouth, something you should know a lot about.

What a big mouth got to do with him failing in england and then that having a part to play now. :stupid


You've singlehandedly ruined friendly debate on this site so why don't you take the advice ddb gave you yesterday and Troll off back from whence you came.

You the one talking crap here so no I am not backing down here.
going then hope explain to me what Kohli poor england record got to do with what he said or how that has any affect on this series then hope.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:03 pm

Anyway in other news this is india squad for the next 3 test.
Virat (Capt), Rahane, Rahul, Vijay, Pujara, K Nair, Saha (WK), Ashwin, Jadeja, Jayant, Mishra, Shami, Umesh, Ishant, Bhuvi, Hardik

So one change bhuvneshwar kumar comes in for Gambhir.

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