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2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:10 am
by meninblue
India likely to play same team. Kedar may miss out if he has not recovered from cramps or hamstring.

Expect changes in Englands bowling attack as they could not defend a very good total.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:58 am
by hopeforthebest
From what I saw of the game 350 was a par score on a rather small ground, Moran's post match comments seems he feels the same way.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:43 am
by meninblue
350 is nowadays chaseable,however it is a score which adds pressure on chasing team even though the conditions are batting friendly. England bowlers did exploit it with 4 wickets below 75. Joe given overs when wickets were required is not a good probability move imo.

All Indian grounds are small with boundaries ranging from 62 to 68.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:30 pm
by andy
I'd make one change. Billings for Morgan, with Buttler captain.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:33 pm
by rich1uk
andy wrote:I'd make one change. Billings for Morgan, with Buttler captain.


not going to happen tho

i'll guess we see plunkett coming in for ball and dawson for rashid

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:34 pm
by andy
I know it's not gonna happen, but its what i would do..

Wouldnt drop Ball, IMO he has been under-used this winter, and wouldnt drop Rashid, yeah he had a bad game, but he had a pretty good year in odi's in 2016, so i would stick with him

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:39 pm
by rich1uk
andy wrote:I know it's not gonna happen, but its what i would do..

Wouldnt drop Ball, IMO he has been under-used this winter, and wouldnt drop Rashid, yeah he had a bad game, but he had a pretty good year in odi's in 2016, so i would stick with him


i wouldn't drop rashid either but as i said in the other thread there must be a concern over morgan's unwillingness to bowl him after he got whacked around a bit in his first couple of overs the other day

gonna be so much pressure on rashid if he plays on thursday and if he gets tonked around again when he first comes on to bowl then it leaves morgan in a really difficult position

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:14 pm
by andy
You can't pick a side though based on whether they are going to get tonked or not though, otherwise no one would get selected...pick him, back him, and throw him in, he's been tonked before and he will be again, all bowlers do, and legspinners defintiely do

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:17 pm
by rich1uk
andy wrote:You can't pick a side though based on whether they are going to get tonked or not though, otherwise no one would get selected...pick him, back him, and throw him in, he's been tonked before and he will be again, all bowlers do, and legspinners defintiely do


once again i agree with you and i said the same thing in the other thread

i am not talking about what i would do tho, i am talking about what i think england might do

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:19 pm
by andy
hmm sadly i think they will remain unchanged

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:22 pm
by hopeforthebest
I think the fact that it was a tiny ground with short boundaries did not favour a leg spinner of Rashid's ability and even Ashwin was ineffective so on a bigger ground with longer boundaries I;d definitely play him.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:14 pm
by andy
was hoping game was tomorrow, as im off work tomorrow, but sadly not to be :(

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:52 pm
by Making_Splinters
Rashid has performed well all year baring this game, he just had one of the most successful Test series of any spinner to India and people are calling for his head?

Sometimes I genuinely do not understand people's comments on here.

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:56 pm
by rich1uk
Making_Splinters wrote:Rashid has performed well all year baring this game, he just had one of the most successful Test series of any spinner to India and people are calling for his head?

Sometimes I genuinely do not understand people's comments on here.


if you read the comments i have made you will see i haven't called for his head

i have suggested that given morgan's reluctance to bowl him at the weekend that they might consider replacing him

but i thought i quite clearly stated i wouldn't drop him

if you are going to have a pop at people for their comments at least try to read them properly

Re: 2nd ODI: India v England at Cuttack on Jan 19, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:15 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Arf! Sorry!

Might be a case for giving some squad players a game? Give everyone at least two games. I think Billings could do with some game time.

So that's Bairstow, Billings, Dawson and Plunkett.