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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby yuppie » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:02 pm

James Pattinson must also be getting close to a recall. Was scheduled to go to India before Cummins but felt he was still suffering from injuries. But he has been in the wickets at the end of this season.

It seems that if Starc can get over his injury then Australia might well have a full bunch of quicks to pick from.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:28 pm

Four years after they all emerged!

Is Bird forgotten so quickly, like the new Peter Siddle: slighted on the fertile prosperous days fit for gambolling and merry making; but a hard working stalwart when the season is barren and the ground turns cold and hard.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby andy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:58 pm

Starc, Hazelwood, Pattinson, Cummins, would be a force to be reckoned with anywhere!! Throw in Nathan Lyon and that is a serious bowling attack!
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Well, aside from the fact that none of them can stay fit.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby GarlicJam » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:21 pm

We can't afford all four at once anyway. We need as many batsmen as possible.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby andy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:29 pm

1.Renshaw
2.Warner
3.Smith
4.Marsh
5.Handscomb
6.Maxwell
7.Wade
8.Starc
9.Hazelwood
10.Cummins
11.Lyon

12.Pattinson

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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby GarlicJam » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:32 pm

SMarsh should be replaced with Usman.

I'd like to see Maxie replaced by Head.

Cummins will bat at 8 or 9.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby rich1uk » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:37 pm

Head looks a better batsman and judging by the recent ODIs Smith had more faith in his bowling as well
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:40 pm

Can see Khawaja coming in for Marsh.

I was quite sanguine about Kohli's comment. All he was implying was that abusive conduct on the field is not forgotten when the match is over and that's something I agree with. It was the Aussies who told everyone else that what happens on the field stays there, but that always felt unjustifiable and wholly unilateral. If Kohli chooses to take offence at deliberately offensive comments then I think that's normal, even commendable.

But it does beg the question what is he saying every time he opens his mouth.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:41 pm

Smarsh has a horrible record at every level. I am amazed he is even picked in the first place.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Dr Cricket » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:30 pm

Brad Hodge apologises to Virat kohli.
got huge respect for Hodge for doing that.
considering he didn't really have to apologise.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby bigfluffylemon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:44 pm

Maxwell barely bowled in India, and he's a spinner. He doesn't usually bowl the full complement of 10 in an ODI - I don't think Smith rates him as an allrounder at all.

Given that Aus have been carrying a number 6 for a while now, and Cummins, Pattinson and Starc are all pretty competent with the bat, I'd almost be tempted to play 5 bowlers:

1 Renshaw
2 Warner
3 Usman
4 Smith
5 Handscomb
6 Wade
7 Cummins
8 Pattinson
9 Starc
10 Lyon
11 Hazlewood

Sure it looks as though the tail starts at 6, but given that Cummins, Pattinson and Starc all average 25 (or more for Pattinson) in first class cricket, it's hardly a weak tail, and certainly no weaker than a bottom 6 of M Marsh, Wade, Starc, Bird, Lyon, Hazelwood. And you're going to need a lot fewer runs with a bowling unit featuring those three on Aussie pitches - that's fearsome!
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:18 pm

Maybe if they had a 40+ averaging batter/keeper. But not with Wade at six. Wade is only just a seven. The rest are eights, sevens at a big stretch. If you want this scenario you need to give Handscom the gloves, and he's supposed to be terrible and has given them up. Then replace Wade with a batter.
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:25 pm

Might work on flat home pitches I suppose. There is a risk of turning an advantage (lower order batting) into a weakness (a long tail).
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Re: Australia tour of India, Feb 17-March 29

Postby alfie » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:12 am

The idea of using all four quicks together is attractive in a way. But is it really needed ? Risk is that one will be grossly underemployed unless the pitches are very flat...and , despite the fact several of them aren't exactly bunnies , they still constitute a fairly lengthy tail.
Remember too that over rates are a consideration . Lyon generally does a fair bit of bowling in Australia.

Not saying it wouldn't be an option - perhaps in Adelaide ? But - even if they are all fit at once - I doubt this would be a regular selection.

But I don't have a smart solution for the all rounder problem either...
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