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Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:57 am
by Arthur Crabtree
I think catching is generally getting worse across the world. Maybe it's how the ball is coming off the modern bat's edge. maybe it's the prominence of white ball games where catchers are rarely kept in position. Maybe in this series its that the scoring has been low, so there have been a lot of edges, therefore more missed chances.

Looks like this could end in a clatter.

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:58 am
by Durhamfootman
Dowrich in

could be 6 soon

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:58 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Credit due to Shai again.

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:13 pm
by Durhamfootman
Dowrich gets such a lot of criticism, that he'll probably score a series winning ton today

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:26 pm
by yuppie
Thats game over now. WI need at least 200 runs to be competitive. There a ong way from that with only 4 wickets left.

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:27 pm
by meninblue
52/6. Toby gets Shane Dowrich caught.


Middle of the bat and that pull would have been 4.

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:27 pm
by Durhamfootman
Durhamfootman wrote:Dowrich gets such a lot of criticism, that he'll probably score a series winning ton today

that did the trick :D

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:28 pm
by mikesiva
I can't see why they dropped ramdin for dowrich.
:horse

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:28 pm
by Durhamfootman
I do like the reverse jinx

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:45 pm
by mikesiva
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Credit due to Shai again.

He gets his half century!
:clap

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:47 pm
by yuppie
mikesiva wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Credit due to Shai again.

He gets his half century!
:clap



This test series is hopefully the stepping stone onto bigger and better things

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:49 pm
by yuppie
Batting does not seem to difficult at present on the feed im watching. Not a great feed, is that how its looking at present?

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:04 pm
by sussexpob
yuppie wrote:Batting does not seem to difficult at present on the feed im watching. Not a great feed, is that how its looking at present?


City games on, not watching at present.

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:22 pm
by alfie
sussexpob wrote:I maybe got Stokes wrong, but I remember a day when me and greyblazer were the only people to persist that Anderson was world class in waiting.

Great achievement. Could be the last of England's test legends that truly mastered his craft


Congrats for reading Anderson right , Sussex. But I must point out that I wrote an article on the old BBC 606 in early 2008 suggesting he had got his act together and was on his way to stardom ; so I want "in" to the believers club :)

Actually recall I got a few dissenting comments at the time ; though I do remember Greyblazer was supportive.

Given your excellent judgement re Jimmy ; what set you against Stokes ? (I am sensing you are starting to warm to him at last , despite continuing to shake your head at his disproportionate ration of good fortune)

Re: England vs West Indies 3rd test Lords

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:31 pm
by alfie
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Where Anderson isn't dangerous in terms of wicket taking, he will still offer control. The main reason why his record in terms of average has improved so much recently is because he is so economical. He's become a throwback in that respect in the present era of fast strike rates and high runs per over. But if he isn't taking the wickets someone has to play that role. I thought he was over valued in UAE last time. He had a nice average because he gave so few runs away, but the SR was poor. In the context of the team, in spite of the average, he actually wasn't offering much. Maybe England just failed a bit slower.


Some truth in that . The big difference in Anderson at home (where he is deadly) and less helpful conditions overseas is that he won't take 6/35 in , say , Adelaide . But what he will do is get a vital early break (Rogers was a big factor in generally keeping him out on the last tour) and maintain tight control to the advantage of those bowling with him. in 2010/11 Tremlett and Bresnan were excellent foils (not to forget Swann !) and the combination worked Australia over nicely. On the last tour , apart from Broad , there was no one else applying any pressure.

Key for England this year will be to get the combination right.