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Postby yuppie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:13 pm

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yuppie wrote:Great victory for India.

Im think Australia will like what they have seen here.



I don't think Saffers will doctor wickets same way like they did for I did series. Aussie are expected to bat better than us on pace friendly wickets.



Im not sure SA have been happy with the wickets provided to be fair. The second test was not a quick wicket, and this last test was not the pitch they had asked for. I think India have ended up with better pitches on this tour than they expected.
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby Adi » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:30 pm

yuppie wrote:
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yuppie wrote:Great victory for India.

Im think Australia will like what they have seen here.



I don't think Saffers will doctor wickets same way like they did for I did series. Aussie are expected to bat better than us on pace friendly wickets.



Im not sure SA have been happy with the wickets provided to be fair. The second test was not a quick wicket, and this last test was not the pitch they had asked for. I think India have ended up with better pitches on this tour than they expected.


The wickets were not at all batsman friendly. 12 specialist batters have batted for 6 innings and there is only one ton. 72 innings from specialist batters and just on e ton is scored. The team totals too for both teams were less than 300 on almost all occasions.They targeted our weakness by providing pace friendly wickets and they have succeeded. The wickets in no way were batsman friendly.
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby yuppie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:05 pm

Im not saying the wickets were batting friendly, just that they were not that fast. The 2nd test pitch in many ways suited India more.

The grass on the pitch for the final test was not what SA wanted, and played more into Indias bowling strengths than SA's. These were not quick bouncy pitches.
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby andy » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:51 pm

The form of De Kock must be a worry for SA, has been short of runs for some time, if he's going to bat 6 then he needs runs and quick!
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:05 pm

Not clear who India's first choice seam attack will be. Pandya had a poor series with the ball, but all the other pace bowlers had their moments. And four is cut in half when they get back home.

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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:39 pm

andy wrote:The form of De Kock must be a worry for SA, has been short of runs for some time, if he's going to bat 6 then he needs runs and quick!

They have a very long tail with him at 6
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:40 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not clear who India's first choice seam attack will be. Pandya had a poor series with the ball, but all the other pace bowlers had their moments. And four is cut in half when they get back home.

Ashwin's reputation away from home was neither enhanced nor damaged.

Bhuvi and shami are definitely the best two for me
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby andy » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:42 pm

Umesh has fallen out of contention too....Bumrah had a fantastic first series in test cricket, hard to pick between India's seamers atm..
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:43 pm

yuppie wrote:Im not saying the wickets were batting friendly, just that they were not that fast. The 2nd test pitch in many ways suited India more.

The grass on the pitch for the final test was not what SA wanted, and played more into Indias bowling strengths than SA's. These were not quick bouncy pitches.

They would have definitely preferred fast bouncy pitches that suited morkel, rabada and ngidi
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby yuppie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:52 pm

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yuppie wrote:Im not saying the wickets were batting friendly, just that they were not that fast. The 2nd test pitch in many ways suited India more.

The grass on the pitch for the final test was not what SA wanted, and played more into Indias bowling strengths than SA's. These were not quick bouncy pitches.

They would have definitely preferred fast bouncy pitches that suited morkel, rabada and ngidi



By all accounts that's what they asked for as well. I guess one does not always get what they ask for. Should make the Australian series interesting. At present neither team has a strong batting line up.
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:05 pm

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yuppie wrote:Im not saying the wickets were batting friendly, just that they were not that fast. The 2nd test pitch in many ways suited India more.

The grass on the pitch for the final test was not what SA wanted, and played more into Indias bowling strengths than SA's. These were not quick bouncy pitches.

They would have definitely preferred fast bouncy pitches that suited morkel, rabada and ngidi



By all accounts that's what they asked for as well. I guess one does not always get what they ask for. Should make the Australian series interesting. At present neither team has a strong batting line up.

Can't imagine there will be many draws
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby Adi » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:05 pm

andy wrote:Umesh has fallen out of contention too....Bumrah had a fantastic first series in test cricket, hard to pick between India's seamers atm..



I maintain my view stated before this series that Bhuvi and Shami are top 2. But it is true, there is not much difference in quality between those two. Different bowlers. Shami is hit the deck when fully fit. Bhuvi is totally different . There form will decide who is no 1 and no 2. There is no leader of the bowling attack as of now. That is our next scope of improvement.

Please no Umesh Yadav. Cannot control the ball. Can't have him just for reverse swing, Shami can also reverse. Too wayward a bowler. Anyone taking name of Umesh Yadav will be gifted a autobiography of Danny Morrison free of cost and it will be ensured that this autobiography is delivered.
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby yuppie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:18 pm

Adi wrote:
andy wrote:Umesh has fallen out of contention too....Bumrah had a fantastic first series in test cricket, hard to pick between India's seamers atm..



I maintain my view stated before this series that Bhuvi and Shami are top 2. But it is true, there is not much difference in quality between those two. Different bowlers. Shami is hit the deck when fully fit. Bhuvi is totally different . There form will decide who is no 1 and no 2. There is no leader of the bowling attack as of now. That is our next scope of improvement.

Please no Umesh Yadav. Cannot control the ball. Can't have him just for reverse swing, Shami can also reverse. Too wayward a bowler. Anyone taking name of Umesh Yadav will be gifted a autobiography of Danny Morrison free of cost and it will be ensured that this autobiography is delivered.



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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby yuppie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:57 pm

Has anyone actually read the Danny Morrison book:)
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Re: South Africa v India tests - Jan 2018

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:20 am

That third innings was a real outlier. And the India tail not getting blown away like the SA lower order made the difference.
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