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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby yuppie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:58 am

New ball is doing something, there is a bit of help for the bowlers at the end of play.

I'm not sure if England should even be bowling Ali now. His overs today have been expensive. Are England going to be short on the overs front here?
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby yuppie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:04 am

How can England not bowl 90 overs, especially considering that 13 overs have come from spinners?

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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:33 am

yuppie wrote:How can England not bowl 90 overs, especially considering that 13 overs have come from spinners?

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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby meninblue » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:54 am

Seems that Warner tonked the bowlers by playing an ODI like innings. Aussies might set a mammoth target yet again in first innings unless there is a collapse tomorrow.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:04 am

Averages at the MCG (minimum 500 runs).

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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:10 am

I see Curran got his first Test wicket with Wee Davie on 99 but had to give it back because he'd overstepped.

Bit of a heartbreaker.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:32 am

Broad averaging nearly 40 this year.

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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Making_Splinters » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:43 am

Another day, another rather toothless performance with the ball.

In England, this attack works. The ball is always likely to do something and we have four bowlers who can all swing / seam the ball which brings Ali more into the game as batsmen take more risks against him.

In conditions like these, we have four right arm quickish pace bowlers and spinner who doesn't do much. We badly need some sort of variety in the attack, as soon as a good batsmen gets set, all of our pace bowlers are essentially identical.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:52 am

Not sure there's anyone outside the tour that's going to offer much variety unless they can find a spinner. It's starting to look like a specialist spinner might have been a least worst option- Broad and Woakes are bowling well over 100 balls per wicket.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:54 am

Suspect Crane and Overton will come in for the SCG.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby meninblue » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:27 am

The bowling attack is just not able to break the partnerships often. Today there were two 100 plus runs partnerships.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby yuppie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:31 am

Correct me if im wrong, all the England quicks are right handers as well.

There is a real lack of variety with the attack
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:40 am

So were the WI great pace attacks. I don't see that the right handedness matters. Just the quality in the conditions. Pace might be nice, but Devon Malcolm played in a lot of Ashes defeats.

Anderson leads at home (more so now Broad seems to be in decline or out of form) but here he is playing a supporting role reasonably well to a bowler who doesn't exist.
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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:41 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Averages at the MCG (minimum 500 runs).

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Re: The Ashes; Melbourne

Postby meninblue » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:42 am

I don't think the bowling is flopping throughout the series because all are righties. SA with Morkel, Steyn, Philly and Rabada are very successful.

Even Jimmy and Broad are world class. But then they have flopped here. Same bowlers will win tests for England in other series after this.
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