Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby meninblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:52 pm

andy wrote:Big blow for India if they are ruled out....pathetic performance from India, and a massive 2-0 lead...5-0 certainly on!


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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby DiligentDefence » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:54 pm

India certainly had the worst of the conditions but the pitch was not particularly quick so soft hands were needed and 200 was possible. England hugely overachieved in their innings and that must be down to the choice of bowlers by India.
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:01 pm

all over, then

it must be very disappointing for India fans

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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby andy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:04 pm

2 spinners, defo wasn't a good move. India must be regretting that, KUldeep toothless, and Ashwin was bowling darts..... obviously Bhuvi was needed on deck like this....but injury sadly got him...doubt Umesh would have been much better, Bumrah, how far away is he?
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby meninblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:12 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:all over, then

it must be very disappointing for India fans

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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby andy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:20 pm

Yep been a long long time since India did anything in England, and IMO 5-0 is on the cards barring a miracle here....batsman completely out of their depth, and with Kohli struggling with back, could be a long series for India
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby meninblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:23 pm

andy wrote:Yep been a long long time since India did anything in England, and IMO 5-0 is on the cards barring a miracle here....batsman completely out of their depth, and with Kohli struggling with back, could be a long series for India


Every time i hear same story. We have better lineup this time, then loss happens. Next tour .... now we have got him, same story. Just fooling around since last 11 years . No results are there, just some bedtime stories to keep fans at sleep.

Meanwhile England came here in 2011 and won one series with Monthy, Swann , Cook and KP giving match winning performances. And our players are doing nothing. Why ?
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby meninblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:27 pm

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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:35 pm

POTM for me should be Woakes for a ton on a bowlers' wicket and a handful of wickets. Case could be made for Anderson though.
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby andy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:37 pm

IMO should be Anderson
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:07 pm

mikesiva wrote:Can anyone explain why Pakistan are competitive in England but India are not?


I'll have a go.

As they always play early in the season and none of their players play in IPL, they have more prior red ball match practice in upcoming conditions than all Indian players do (and even some England ones get for May tests!)
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:18 pm

nor can they become overly reliant on home advantage, to paper over the cracks. Every series is an away series for them
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby mikesiva » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:18 pm

In 2016 Pakistan played late in the season and drew 2-2.

I have heard that the ball swings more in Pakistan than it does in India. Could that be true?

If it is that would explain why Pakistan seamers swing the ball better than Indians and why Pakistanis are better batters of swing bowling than the colleagues of Kohli.

Either way it seems the wrong side played two tests and the wrong side is playing five.

Another four day test despite the rain.
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:23 pm

The side playing 5 tests has very little to do with chances of winning. If it did England would only get 2 in India!
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Re: Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:48 pm

ianp1970 wrote:The side playing 5 tests has very little to do with chances of winning. If it did England would only get 2 in India!

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