sussexpob wrote:The crux is, before we tear into India, I wonder what exactly we should have expected of any touring team, let alone an Asian one, who were confronted with arguably the most consistently helpful seam bowing conditions I can remember in my lifetime watching English tests.
Woakes averages 23 at home (55 wickets). Anderson has nearly 300 wickets at 21 in the last decade in England. Broad has 250 plus with an average of 26. Put shortly, how many teams would bat well against these sorts of performers, with all the chips firmly in the bowlers hands? The fact India could in other circumstances have been 3-1 shows pretty much how damn well they have done.
Would England have stood a chance on bunsen pitches designed for raging spin, with Murali, Warne and Kumble (statistically probably similar to the above 3)???
Not a chance. Theyd have been annihilated.
Dr Cricket wrote:Going to be another 2009 ashes series where England won vast majority of the crucial moments.
captaincolly wrote:Major ECB announcement at 12pm according to Jonathan Agnew. Speculation is that it's Cook retiring.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think we're advocating meaningful practice of the sort touring teams aren't getting now. In conditions that are likely to be duplicated in the Tests.
My impression is that (most) home boards started using the warm ups as a means to winning the series, and now it has become standard behaviour. I think those advocating better preparation mean that this shouldn't happen.
Dr Cricket wrote:Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think we're advocating meaningful practice of the sort touring teams aren't getting now. In conditions that are likely to be duplicated in the Tests.
My impression is that (most) home boards started using the warm ups as a means to winning the series, and now it has become standard behaviour. I think those advocating better preparation mean that this shouldn't happen.
Thing is boards shouldn’t have to threaten to walkout for something they wanted on the pitch or teams.
Bopara said it was only 3 days because bcci were not happy bopara, ten doeschate, harmer, siddle and porter plus others Didn’t play.
Think they only played afterwards because the pitch was green and India had 100 percent autority on the pitch.
But they then decided to hurt ecb and Essex on the pockets though at cut a day of the match last minute.
Personally think bcci did the right thing, to make sure they got the prep which India wanted for far too long ecb been blaming it on the counties, even though that is bull *modded* considering every overseas ashes they promise ca that they will make sure counties provide them with good warm up games.
About time boards stuff the counties a bit especially when they use the games against India and others to make some nice money without actually doing much to help the visiting teams.
Dr Cricket wrote:True the difference has been the lower order runs but not sure I have ever seen a team with 4 fifties in the top 6 and no hundreds win a series 3-1 before.
Think India been grubbed twice in this series can’t remember many times when a team that is 1.10 or 1.15 lose a test match let alone for it happening twice.
Haven’t been able to kill the English team when India been top and in a very strong position.
India really need to fix the lower order batting for the next cycle of away games but not really sure how it would happen with most of the pace bowlers not being able to bat much barring bhuvi.
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