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Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:48 pm

Inspection at 2pm, but outfield very wet (might dry quickly in tropical conditions I suppose). It'll be a sub-20 over game, if it happens.

During the practice a few days ago, apparently a python had to be removed from the outfield.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby sussexpob » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:02 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Inspection at 2pm, but outfield very wet (might dry quickly in tropical conditions I suppose). It'll be a sub-20 over game, if it happens.

During the practice a few days ago, apparently a python had to be removed from the outfield.


Was it on our last tour to Sri Lanka, that the same thing happened during a game? They found a massive snake in the front of the stand, or just outside the rope? I think it was Englands tour, I might be wrong.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby sussexpob » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:05 pm

Actually our tour in 2007....time flies

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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby sussexpob » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:07 pm

Bit of a weird tie in from the other thread I just posted, but Ian Ward tweeted a video of him having a round of golf with Darren Gough yesterday in Sri Lanka, and Gough who apparently hates snakes, hit a drive right into the high grass, and refused to find his ball because he'd seen some snakes around.....

Weird, not sure if Sri Lanka is full of them, but usually they go nowhere near noise or people........
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:35 pm

Not sure any snake could swallow Goughie whole, and they'd struggle to asphyxiate him. It'd have to be venomous to take him out.

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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:14 pm

bigfluffylemon wrote:I think Trott is hugely unfairly bagged out for his strike rate. In the context of when he was playing the game, it really wasn't that bad, and I think in the ODI game at the time, a strike rate of 80 was only ever so slightly below the norm.

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I could name you 20 players easily who are considered very good ODI players, who have a strike rate about the same or worse than Trott. The issue is twofold, I think. Firstly, it wasn't so much Trott himself, if was the mindset that included Trott, Bell, Cook, Vaughan etc. in the team. There is room for one reliable anchor player. You don't need three. The second is that he was playing that kind of innings as ODI cricket was evolving and leaving England behind. Prior to Trott's career, only 3 England players had ever had a better career strike rate than Trott did in 2011 (qualifier - 1000 runs scored) - KP, Flintoff and Tresco. And none of them had a strike rate higher than 90. In four years since the last world cup, England now have 6 of their top 7 with a strike rate of near or over 100, and there's been hand-wringing about Joe Root with a strike rate of 90 and an average of over 50, and whether he's 'holding back' the side. The game has changed.

I took a look at Trott's top 10 innings for England. England won about half of them and lost the others. I think there's maybe two that you could make a legitimate case that if Trott had got on with it a bit more, England could have won. But in most cases where England lost, they were thumped, and Trott was the only man standing amid the rest of the batting order failing around him. Maybe there's a case that the later batters fell because they were trying to get on with it and he'd left them too much to do. But I think that's a pretty long bow to draw. In most cases, the entire England batting line up in 2011 simply didn't have the capability of scoring the runs they needed to win the game. Singling their highest averaging player, Trott, out for his strike rate as a reason is scapegoating, IMO.


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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby andy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:45 pm

21 over match starting now... yay...
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:54 pm

Stone goes for a Dernbachesque 17 runs in his first over.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby andy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:01 pm

Sri lanka have slowed dramatically, 110-4 after 16
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby andy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:03 pm

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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:16 pm

Plenty of runs for England to get caught up in the SL spin.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:17 pm

Only one over for Mo, but Rashid gets five.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby andy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:20 pm

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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:27 pm

Pretty tight bowling after the first couple. Still, I fancy SL to win (even given how awful their recent ODI record is). Can't get past England's paralysis when the spinners come on.
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Re: Eng in SL, LO series, Oct 10-27

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