Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby mikesiva » Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:55 am

Australia 233-5 declared

Khawaja 90
Marsh 63*
Smith 45

Khurram 3-45

Target 450
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby bigfluffylemon » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:03 am

89 all out in one session.

Why do they never enforce the follow on? Second innings was pointless.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby sussexpob » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:17 pm

GarlicJam wrote:I don't know too much about the subject, but I am curious to see the rating of the pitch for this test


The pitch might have been saved by the state of the match, because I dont think even Pakistan would argue they had a chance of saving the draw after the new ball spell from Australia.... but the umpires could have been facing a very difficult decision had the score been 50-0 when the match actually ended.... because in the space between Mitchell Marsh coming out to bat for Australia and Pakistan being bowled out, the pitch was clearly deteriorating, and that had suddenly started to accelerate once Pakistan got to 50 odd in the 4th innings. By that stage, the conditions had become almost unplayable, you had one ball spitting up to throat height from Starc, and then at the other end Lyon got a wicket with a ball that rolled along the floor from the same length. Particularly at Lyon's end the bounce had become unfit for test cricket, I would argue. The stage at which someone is bowled having got the bat in line, but the ball bounces under the bat, is the time to start thinking about calling the test off.

We seen some in Australia's third innings, but not the same. Marsh got clobbered on the helmet, Khawaja got out (although overturned) on a shorter ball that hit his ankle... generally until the 4th innings though, it was the odd ball bouncing that was pitched shorter, so most of them flew past the batsman. Khawaja did try to pull one that he top edged.

Usually to be unfit/poor it has to be dangerous. Could argue the bounce was not as inconsistent or random as Kingston in the late 90s, or the Wanderers in 17-18, but the pitch also had a pace and carry in it more than usual, so you dont need a great deviation to make it more dangerous.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby sussexpob » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:21 pm

On a more positive note, I think I could watch that Starc delivery that got Shafique out in the 4th innings all day long.... what an absolute ripper of a delivery, that...
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:59 pm

Starc/Cummins/Hazlewood/Lyon line up together again. They are a historical phenomenon.

Aussie side incredibly settled generally. Selection meetings must be short.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:15 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Selection meetings must be short.

apparently there was some strong argument for Boland for this test - but just who would have been under consideration to make way for him?

Hazelwood, maybe - but why?
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:37 am

I just remember Boland's poor Ashes performances.

Pakistan fighting back a bit. And keeping the RR down.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby mikesiva » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:17 am

Australia 318 all out

Labuschagne 63
Khawaja 42
Marsh 41

Jamal 3-63

I think Warner retires after this series.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby bigfluffylemon » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:10 am

Pakistan so close to having Australia on the ropes, then let them off with a couple of bad dropped catches.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby mikesiva » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:31 am

Pakistan 264 all out

Shafique 62
Masood 54
Rizwan 42

Cummins 5-48
Lyon 4-73
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:18 am

Interesting contest. But I guess the Aussies will win again.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby GarlicJam » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:44 pm

Australian batting has so much potential - for a big score, or for a fragile collapse.

Both tests, Pakistan have had long spells of doing better than Australia. Then they have short spells, maybe even just the one badly dropped catch, that undoes all their great work.

Yes, Aus will probably win it.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby sussexpob » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:47 pm

300 looks a lot on this pitch, so Australia should win the match. Shame that Pakistan couldn't take key catches, at 16-5 the game was probably close to won.....
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:37 am

Pakistan making a reasonable effort at this chase at 216/5. Australia still likely to win, one wicket and into the tail, but once it's below 100 with wickets in hand teams can get the jitters.

Could have been a comfortable Pakistan win if they held Marsh when he was on 15 or whatever.
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Re: Pak tour of Oz, Dec 14 - Jan 7

Postby bigfluffylemon » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:59 am

I've jinxed them.

Pretty rough dismissal. Very aggressive bowling,
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