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Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:15 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Rogers?Cook
Warner>>Lyth
Smith>>>Ballance
Clarke>>Bell
Voges>>Root
Watson?Stokes
Haddin<Buttler
Lyon?Moeen
Johnson><Wood
Hazlewood>Broad
Harris>Anderson

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:18 am
by sussexpob
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rogers?Cook
Warner>>Lyth
Smith>>>Ballance
Clarke>>Bell
Voges>>Root
Watson?Stokes
Haddin<Buttler
Lyon?Moeen
Johnson><Wood
Hazlewood>Broad
Harris>Anderson


Are you trying to suggest that Voges is better than Joe Root?

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:21 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Gingerfinch wrote:I can't see us winning 5-0? Rain will no doubt intervene at some point!


The imponderable is what impact will the absence of Moores have? It could be that England are much better prepared going into this series. Possibly best since 2012 before the Flower regime became scary.

Who fields best will go a long way to deciding the marginal issues. Aus fielded better in WI. For example, the match up between the spinners will be influenced by the absence of Jordan in the field, and probably the retention of Buttler.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:23 am
by Arthur Crabtree
sussexpob wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rogers?Cook
Warner>>Lyth
Smith>>>Ballance
Clarke>>Bell
Voges<<Root
Watson?Stokes
Haddin<Buttler
Lyon?Moeen
Johnson>>Wood
Hazlewood>Broad
Harris>Anderson


Are you trying to suggest that Voges is better than Joe Root?


Amended. Send button is twisting my betterthans, man.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:32 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Bayliss might change some things, but it's not obvious that he knows the County scene that well. The selectors and Strauss seem to be in charge of team decisions. Taking only pace back up to Spain suggests they absolutely know their team, and are just legislating for injuries to the pace bowlers.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:01 pm
by hopeforthebest
Arthur Crabtree wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rogers?Cook
Warner>>Lyth
Smith>>>Ballance
Clarke>>Bell
Voges<<Root
Watson?Stokes
Haddin<Buttler
Lyon?Moeen
Johnson>>Wood
Hazlewood>Broad
Harris>Anderson


Are you trying to suggest that Voges is better than Joe Root?


Amended. Send button is twisting my betterthans, man.


Surely as a bowler it's Lyon >>>>Moeen.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:06 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
I think Moeen is a decent bowler, but not as good as Lyon. My ? was because it's not an equal comparison. Moeen won't take as many wickets as Lyon, but he might score some centuries.

Though, I don't think England dismissed Garry* in the last Ashes.

Lyon's nickname.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:39 pm
by GarlicJam
I don't know how you can say that Root>>Voges. One ">" at the most, but using your logic that you just applied to Moeen, Voges superior bowling should drag him to equal.



Then again, Voges has triple the test batting average of Root......

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:46 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
It's like picking lists. You always pick one howler to start a row.

I suppose there is an element of Voges being an unknown quantity at this level. But Root has been one of the phenomenons of world cricket over the past 1-2 years.

I doubt either will bowl much, but if you're having Voges' better Test averages, I'm having Root's eight Test wickets to Voges, zero, and I raise you one dot.......

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:46 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
So I stand by my more thans.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:48 pm
by GarlicJam
beaten by a .




I maintain one ">" is enough, though.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:50 pm
by sussexpob
Voges>>>>>>>>> Oli Robinson....

Smoked him twice like a kipper against Sussex this year

One ">" at the most


Arthur has said before, he doesn't like pensioners.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:55 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
I'm supporting the Aussies (though not in the ODIs). But I fear Joe warrants two more thans. He averages 54 and has six tons That average is Clarkesque. And Voges isn't even a nailed on starter is he? Though I guess he will start.

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:10 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Ok... I withdraw one more than...

Re: Counting down to the Ashes series in 2015

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:30 pm
by braveneutral
Everyone knows Ballance is better than Smith.