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Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:29 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Surely beat the West Indies though? Might not even beat the WI of 5-10 years ago, but they'll beat the current team.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:03 am
by hopeforthebest
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Surely beat the West Indies though? Might not even beat the WI of 5-10 years ago, but they'll beat the current team.


There are reasons to doubt that they will beat WI but even if they do can they do so in a convincing manner. A 1-0 series win would hardly set the pulses racing.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:08 am
by Arthur Crabtree
No, a 1-0 will be seen as a negative result. England should expect to win each match.

WI will be better at home than the standard we see in SA. But even at home, they shouldn't bat long enough to get draws. England aren't currently strong of course, but should be expected to win well.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:58 am
by Durhamfootman
Arthur Crabtree wrote:In the countdown to the 05 Ashes Fred will be massive. But can't be called Fredalo because that hasn't happened yet.

sorry AC, I meant only the resorts in the carib comment. Thought Fred might still have some influence at HQ

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:02 am
by Aidan11
As much as I'd like to say England, I think the WIs will just go further down. Not that they can fall much further but until things improve at admin level there will be discord among the players.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:02 am
by Durhamfootman
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Maybe the Aussies should refuse to play anywhere over here that doesn't have a medieval castle.

rock and roll....

a whole ashes series played at the riverside. so many ashes tests that Durham will be forced to rename the ground the Quaintarse Durham ICG.

Durham would still struggle to turn a profit :facepalm

#bunchoftossers

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:11 pm
by Making_Splinters
Suprised to see votes for the Windies, where can they decline to? They've been completely outclassed by the larger test nations for quite some time.

England have a make or break year next year: They should thump the West Indies, but English batsmen don't get on well with spin. They should beat New Zealand, but New Zealand have shown themselves to be a pretty decent side of late. The trio of Boult, Southee and Wagner will be a handfull. The Ashes looks hard to call at present, Australia are in better form but have a far from settled line up and always look a day away from an injury. As far as the UAE and South Africa go, we'll get hammered.

A pass grade for Cook, Moores and Downton would be wins against the Windies and Kiwis, and at least a competitive series against Australia. England have the furthest to fall out of any of the top teams.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:16 pm
by Durhamfootman
agree about the WIndies

England might have the furthest to fall, but I'm not sure they will. India are the ones most likely to go on the slide, imo . Dhoni can only take them down, and I'm not sure whether there is as great a taste for regicide over there, as there is over here

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:39 pm
by Making_Splinters
India are expected to win at home and lose to decent sides overseas. Seeing as they're only touring Bangladesh next year, they're unlikely to lose that. The South Africa tour will be tough, but if there's a side who are going to beat you at home it's the Saffers.

India again don't seem to have far to fall, a poor showing at the World Cup is unlikely.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:27 pm
by Durhamfootman
a lot less likely than England, that's for sure. I hadn't considered the WC, tbh. I was only thinking about tests

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:16 pm
by Durhamfootman
Durhamfootman wrote:agree about the WIndies

England might have the furthest to fall, but I'm not sure they will. India are the ones most likely to go on the slide, imo . Dhoni can only take them down, and I'm not sure whether there is as great a taste for regicide over there, as there is over here

and now they don't need to

I will now need to change my team

Perhaps I'll go with Pakistan who are losing spinners at a great rate of knots

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:23 pm
by Making_Splinters
Durhamfootman wrote:
Durhamfootman wrote:agree about the WIndies

England might have the furthest to fall, but I'm not sure they will. India are the ones most likely to go on the slide, imo . Dhoni can only take them down, and I'm not sure whether there is as great a taste for regicide over there, as there is over here

and now they don't need to

I will now need to change my team

Perhaps I'll go with Pakistan who are losing spinners at a great rate of knots


Pakistan again are a side that is pretty much only expected to win at home. They looked formidable even without their big name spinners this year, their batsmen are doing a good job of becoming the most immovable object in World Cricket.

Next year they have a free win against Bangladesh, a tough tour to Sri Lanka, a free series win against England and if it goes ahead a potentially dificult home series against India.

Not much room for them to not meet expectations either.

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:40 pm
by Durhamfootman
so who's left?

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:42 pm
by Durhamfootman
perhaps England will surprise Pak in the UAE by playing mystery spin as a slow straight one and not tie themselves in knots expecting imaginary turn that isn't there

Re: Which team will experience the biggest decline in 2015?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:43 pm
by Durhamfootman
although, in truth, it's been nearly 10 years since England surprised anybody, at any time, with anything

#formulaicpendancy